Originally Posted by snake
" No, that's not true at all. I am leading a (extremely active) clan with 20+ members alone. I have things to do everyday, such as reading all (These are from 15:00 to now. Blue ones came while I was typing this.) posts, Remove spam, Update clan-stats, Plan events, Talk between people to make sure things are talked about and sometimes hang out with the members I so dearly like to keep a close relationship. "
because it's your clan, you like it and want to keep it up.
reply stays the same - you will understand as soon as you will get employed.
You totally fail to see what I was talking about. They run a community just as me because they like it. And stop the bullshit about me not being qualified to understand because you've assumed I don't do shit all day. Even if I hadn't done a single thing my whole life I'd understand that you can't have a sustainable world if everyone is getting paid for all sort of work. Do you expect money for cleaning your room? Or cutting your lawn?
"My point is, Yes I do know what you're talking about and if I myself feel able to do this for free (Not for fun) then I believe in the possibility of there being someone who'd enjoy greatly to do more work then me for the same price with way better quality."
how long person can work for e? most of gms live around 2-3 months, smods up to half year i guess.
thats a job, and belive me, i do less volume of work right now employed then i was doing for clan / community for free. just to think about it. any work deserve payment is a rule of healthy business. working for free is scam.
There's no rule like that. I've never heard of it and I can't see how it would ever work out. You're hugely exaggerating here too. Scam? I don't even know what to say to this. I'm stunned.
And that you do more shit here then you do at your job isn't a reason why Hampa "has" to chough up money for you. I will add to this when I get on the computer.
PM me with any and all questions
so you will agree to do real work in sustaining game abandoned by developers for free?
i could understand that if toribash was your game, but it isn't. you will just encourage devs keep slacking like they do for last 3-4 years
we all were like that once. trying to help, thinking that you can change something, make things better. willing to do things for free. thinking that your efforts will be noticed.
pink shades. don't repeat same mistakes as dozens people before you.
you may probably check opinions on game from people who contributed it. like 8OJ4N, Nirs, ex-gms / ex-smods etc
but hey, they surely don't know shit, just a gagle of butthurt oldfags, right?
sometimes people give okay advices, especially people who've been here and done that. it took long time for me to stop looking at things through pink shades, but if i could do it earlier i'd better wasted my time on something more entertaining for myself insted of entertaining other people. and in hopes that devs will start to do their job.
it takes time to understand. give yourself couple of years when you will had to pay for living yourself and your attitude towards concepts of slacking and concept of working for free will drasticly change. i guarantee.
i could understand that if toribash was your game, but it isn't. you will just encourage devs keep slacking like they do for last 3-4 years
we all were like that once. trying to help, thinking that you can change something, make things better. willing to do things for free. thinking that your efforts will be noticed.
pink shades. don't repeat same mistakes as dozens people before you.
you may probably check opinions on game from people who contributed it. like 8OJ4N, Nirs, ex-gms / ex-smods etc
but hey, they surely don't know shit, just a gagle of butthurt oldfags, right?
sometimes people give okay advices, especially people who've been here and done that. it took long time for me to stop looking at things through pink shades, but if i could do it earlier i'd better wasted my time on something more entertaining for myself insted of entertaining other people. and in hopes that devs will start to do their job.
it takes time to understand. give yourself couple of years when you will had to pay for living yourself and your attitude towards concepts of slacking and concept of working for free will drasticly change. i guarantee.
Last edited by snake; May 8, 2013 at 09:45 AM.
Originally Posted by BenDover
that better not have been directed at me snake.
also, didnt realise this thread was for complaining about not being paid.
everyones wearing their bitchy pants today
Ikr :l I just came home and realized I just spent another hour writing a meaning less response to this today. Not even gonna post part of it. No one is getting cash so let's continue. Or actually, Let's discuss all ideas in order on the frontpage.
PM me with any and all questions
