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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
You are arbitrarily deciding that /this/ is different to everything else that has happened in history.

It sounds like an iPhone advert; "This changes everything" - um actually apple it's just another phone it's not that new really...

GM is comparable because in the context of divisions of society it is identical as countless things that have happened before.

Quit bringing up the iPhone - you recognise that we're not talking about products, so quit bringing it up. It's irrelevant to the discussion.

Just because gm acts as a division in society doesn't mean it will have the same effect as different divisions. This is just common sense. There are issues intimately unique to gm, just as there as issues intimately unique to Sunni/Shi'a muslims.

Now, you suggested that "If our sample size is all of history, and in all of these events the outcome has not been dystopic then we can safely assume that one more similar event won't be the straw to break the camel's back."

First off, I never said that gm would result in dystopia. I said the very opposite. I said it is unknowable. The only reason I mentioned dystopic sci-fi was because you said you couldn't see anyway that gm could go wrong. Those books postulate ways that it could go wrong. You can't think of a way that gm could go wrong, those people can. They'll help you think of ways that it can go wrong. That's all that point was.

You said "Got any arguments that aren't in the realm of fiction?". Well, I'm not basing my argument on sci-fi books, as I just said. My argument, which I've reiterated so many times, is that we don't know, so asserting something as being completing good or completely bad is very myopic. I really have no idea how you can keep misrepresenting me so badly - I stated this exact argument in pretty much all of my posts in this thread.


Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
At least it's not based on the assumption that your favourite dystopian book will come real!

Maybe there will be zombies too!!!1 AND LIGHTSABERS!111

I hope, now, that you can see how far removed from my argument your representation of it is.

Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Hate to tell you this mate but Rome broke up a while ago. I don't think the 'capite censi' are still around :/
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So?

You said, "Land/landless classes? First I've heard of it". I educated you. You're welcome.
Okay, point out where I even brought up bureaucratic and legal barriers.
I brought up technical issues and textbook knowledge.


Actually, don't bother. I just hope for your sake you are trolling.
Seeing as you responded very fast it is evident that you did not bother informing yourself. You just want to be right with the things you assume you know.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Assuming you weren't just randomly posting sources for the hell of it.

Read the link and find out why they said it is not successful.

I can't find any mention of red tape either.

Run for office.
This thread is about immortalpig trolling.
Moving on.


I've been asked to re-open the thread so I guess there is more to talk about.
Go ahead.
Last edited by Redundant; Feb 7, 2015 at 10:27 PM.
Originally Posted by Aracoon View Post
I don't poke my head in here much, but I there are definitely some ways this could be bad. Population growth would be one of them. Population growth will be a big problem sometime in the near future, and I don't think making human beings live 40-50+ years would help that much. Again with the population. if we were to (just throwing out numbers here) decrease the deathtole of disease by 50%, that's a hell of a lot less people dying, and I'm sure we honestly do not want that.

Population growth is already a problem, think of China where the one child policy and granny police had to be used, as well as all of the infant mortality.

GM crops will allow a higher population to be sustained but this means the population will grow even more then we wont have a solution
This topic fell off of the train tracks wow.
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That's not bad it's cool how this topic has so much depth.
Last edited by apple123; Feb 9, 2015 at 06:57 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
Nay.

And Yay.

Nay




Yay

I'm just gamin' man