Pouffy isnt a Hillary supporter??
I think the fact he said he was going to make all muslims carry cards that identified them as such is bad enough tbh and the fact he had to water down his promise from 'no muslims will be allowed in' to no musloms from countries which are unstable, suffering from terrorism issues says to me that he wants to be more extreme than the public is happy with.
Tbh even that watered down pledge is pretty ridiculous, he is a racist and I think he is just about the only politician that can make Hillary look like a viable president
I think the fact he said he was going to make all muslims carry cards that identified them as such is bad enough tbh and the fact he had to water down his promise from 'no muslims will be allowed in' to no musloms from countries which are unstable, suffering from terrorism issues says to me that he wants to be more extreme than the public is happy with.
Tbh even that watered down pledge is pretty ridiculous, he is a racist and I think he is just about the only politician that can make Hillary look like a viable president
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Closing borders to specifically muslims is a pretty racist idea yes, however you swing it
His original plan was to stop muslims entering and leaving altogether, not just from countries which are unstable. Its one thing arguing to close borders to unstable countries, its another thing to close borders to only muslims from unstable countries and entirely something else to plan to close borders to all muslims from all countries
no thats not a strawman
His original plan was to stop muslims entering and leaving altogether, not just from countries which are unstable. Its one thing arguing to close borders to unstable countries, its another thing to close borders to only muslims from unstable countries and entirely something else to plan to close borders to all muslims from all countries
no thats not a strawman
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Originally Posted by SmallBowl
Closing borders to specifically muslims is a pretty racist idea yes, however you swing it
I don't understand how it's "racist", when Muslims aren't actually a race, but followers of Islam.
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I don't understand why you think a distaste for a religion automatically means a distaste for a race.
Originally Posted by SmallBowl
no thats not a strawman
Yeah, that's a pretty obvious strawman.
Last edited by Moonshake; Aug 11, 2016 at 07:46 PM.
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Ok sorry hes an islamophobe and still discriminatory, the effect is the same as racism except a different group of people.
I dont see the point in antagonising over my wording, the effect of his actions and words is the same and youre fully aware of it so why? Sure my wording was wrong but it didnt really have a bearing on the point I was making
Its not at all a strawman lol, lets substitute the word racist with discriminatory - please explain how thats a strawman? I used an example to show my point - I did not create a similar sounding argument to the one against me to argue against, thats what a strawman is
I dont see the point in antagonising over my wording, the effect of his actions and words is the same and youre fully aware of it so why? Sure my wording was wrong but it didnt really have a bearing on the point I was making
Its not at all a strawman lol, lets substitute the word racist with discriminatory - please explain how thats a strawman? I used an example to show my point - I did not create a similar sounding argument to the one against me to argue against, thats what a strawman is
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Originally Posted by wibblefox
lol nice way to frame the situation, if only that was true.
The real situation is desperately grasping at straws trying to manipulate the situation to try and talk shit.
If you want me to agree with you, you should highlight why I'm wrong instead of incessantly saying that I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by wibblefox
Same people who say "omg Trump just put a hit out on Hillary" also say "omg Trump wants to fuck his daughter" and "omg Trump is going to deport all Muslims and even stop American troops who are Muslim from returning home!" After 1000 such bullshit lines what am I expected to think?
Funny, you really shouldn't expect anything since I've claimed none of these things. I guess that's just the same ignorance and generalization we should expect from the right eh?
Originally Posted by wibblefox
The left puts out so much bullshit that any rational person has 0 trust in anything they say. So yeah when you started harping on about how Trump is calling for Hillary to be killed I jump right to ad hominem because crying wolf over and over again actually does leave an impression.
"Bill Clinton is a pedophile"
"Trickle down economics works :^) "
"The Iraq war was the proper decision"
"Climate Change is a hoax (propogated by the Chinese)"
"Why do they call it climate change instead of global warming now? Checkmate, liberals!"
"Barrack Hussein Obama is a muslim!"
"Obama is a Marxist!"
"Obama isn't even a born american! Lets see the birth certificate!"
"Nono, let's see the REAL birth certificate! Longform!!"
"Who cares about an article from a local Hawaiian newspaper, that's obviously faked"
"We all know he's actually Kenyan"
"Obama is the founder of ISIS"
"Obama is a part of the muslim brotherhood"
"Obama only beat Romney because of ACORN"
"Hillary did Benghazi!"
"Hillary is a communist in cahoots with Russia"
"Cruz' dad helped kill JFK"
"Bernie is a communist (we promise this time)"
And many more!
You must have a steel stomach to align yourself with the right, then.
Originally Posted by wibblefox
From the amount of bullshit that is being put out right now I doubt there are many rational or moderate supporters of Hillary left.
To be fair, I can say the same of Trump supporters. Seems neither side has a monopoly on stupid.
Originally Posted by wibblefox
Yeah saying you want to close borders because enemies are known to be sneaking in is a very racist idea, how dare he..............
Not at all, I personally wouldn't be opposed per se if we closed our borders to everyone after cutting deals on managing important travel amd trade.
Blocking travel to try to target Muslims is bigoted and stupid, though, seeing as it'd also be completely ineffective. They have recruited native citizens from all different countries in Europe (the ISIS beheader dude was a UK national), focusing solely on "oh god the arab looking muslims from Syria" is misleading and counter productive, as it propogates the "Middle east vs. The west" narrative ISIS LOVES.
Originally Posted by Moonshake
I don't understand how it's "racist", when Muslims aren't actually a race, but followers of Islam.
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I don't understand why you think a distaste for a religion automatically means a distaste for a race.
Because we all know Trump isn't talking about the moderate muslim converts Sven and Ingrid (who we wouldn't even be able to identify). I think it's obvious he's talking about arabs. Either way, bigotry is still bigotry, whether talking about religion or race.
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