Originally Posted by
gunop
I don't think the killing wasn't racially motivated.
Maybe not. We can't know. Doesn't make systemic racism any less of a problem.
Originally Posted by
gunop
The new footage combined with prior evidence shows that he was on just about every drug and clearly wasn't cooperating.
This isn't grounds for an execution.
Originally Posted by
gunop
Particularly he had enough fentanyl for it to be lethal. One of the symptoms it causes is trouble breathing. He even tested positive for COVID for god's sake.
The autopsy report said the reason he died was the pressure being exerted on his neck for 8 minutes.
Originally Posted by
gunop
Even besides that it's unacceptable how the media twisted it.
I can't really speak to media coverage as I'm not from the US, but I am curious to know what you think was twisted.
Originally Posted by
gunop
It's disappointing that this months old information is only coming to light with the recently leaked footage.
The toxicology report was available as a part of the autopsy report?
Originally Posted by
gunop
And above all, the fact that he was saying "I can't breathe" before he was on the ground is just the ultimate mockery. The body cam footage doesn't even extend to the point where he was on the ground, so we still don't even know everything that went on.
You just said fentanyl can cause trouble breathing. It could have been entirely factual. That doesn't even matter though, as it's not fucking grounds for an execution. There's also plenty of bystander videos that show what happens after.
Originally Posted by
gunop
Systemic racism is a real issue and the fight for equality is the one good thing to come out of Floyd's death. However after all the looting and hate for the police it's hard to say if it will even net a positive outcome. People not realizing that violence is cylical is one of the greatest pitfalls of humanity. To quote Martin Luther King: "Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral"
Looting isn't part of the movement.
I agree that hating all police and being violent isn't super helpful, but from what I've heard there have been plenty of peaceful protests but nothing has changed. I don't see many options for the protesters but to escalate if there is to be significant change.
Originally Posted by
gunop
It's late at night and I'll probably edit this later. Just an hour ago I thought his death was completely unacceptable, but after reading about all this new info I have to get this out before I go to bed.
Are you seriously saying his death is acceptable after seeing the footage and finding out about his drug usage?
Derek Chauvin was charged with second degree murder. The court had access to all of the information that the public has, and more. The court finds the death unacceptable.
Last edited by fudgiebalz; Aug 9, 2020 at 07:58 PM.