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Shiai Tokens update
Hi, Shiai Tokens have received an overhaul!

As you may have noticed, your tokens are no longer inventory items but are an actual currency now.
You can see your ST balance in your account info page, and it will also be shown in game client's home screen with Toribash 5.41+


Shiai Token Exchange is gone too, but instead of waiting for staff to finally get you some new items to spend your tokens on, you can now buy any ex-USD item with Shiai Tokens at 1:1 ratio - any time! Any new items we release from this point onwards will also be available for ST as well as TC.

If you don't have enough ST to buy some items but want them right now because you're THAT impatient, you can purchase Shiai Tokens from Torishop here: http://forum.toribash.com/tori_shop.php?cid=84




This change is sort of a test run of how a "Premium currency" may work for Toribash opposed to direct USD payments for items. We'll be closely looking at feedback this overhaul receives and it'll be used to make the final decision whether this system should stay and later applied to TBN, or reverted back to old state.


As a final note, we'll be adding week-long discounts for select colors starting next week, so keep an eye on shop sales - maybe you can grab some Demon stuff for just a few ST!
Do you think maybe St can be used as a discount on the items and then the rest can be bought with tc?
Holy shish, that's quite interesting one.
Also, will some sets like Impure/Sakura/Spring etc return to ToriShop using new Shiai system or they still stay as limited edition ones?
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Originally Posted by Swaves View Post
I am greatly in support of this idea, however I do see flaws in the current system regarding this statement;

An example, if a low qi player wishes to purchase a no qi Pure Force, there'd have to save up 35 ST - an extremely difficult challenge for any player, especially less experiences players. This equates to winning +15 highly contested event squad held in-game tournaments, which aren't easy to win in the slightest.

I feel as though the prices of these no-qi items should be significantly reduced to give low qi players incentives to work towards in the short term if are unable to purchase these items with real money.

But shiai tokens can also be obtained on daily rewards, so it might take a long time, but it is possible to low qi players win ST in a easier way.
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Originally Posted by Swaves View Post
I am greatly in support of this idea, however I do see flaws in the current system regarding this statement;

An example, if a low qi player wishes to purchase a no qi Pure Force, there'd have to save up 35 ST - an extremely difficult challenge for any player, especially less experiences players. This equates to winning +15 highly contested event squad held in-game tournaments, which aren't easy to win in the slightest.

I feel as though the prices of these no-qi items should be significantly reduced to give low qi players incentives to work towards in the short term if are unable to purchase these items with real money.

rblreman has a point here:
Originally Posted by rblrenan View Post
But shiai tokens can also be obtained on daily rewards, so it might take a long time, but it is possible to low qi players win ST in a easier way.

It would take some time to get there, but you can use it in combination with winning etourneys and various events from ES.
And most importantly, you can split it between grinding and buying let's say 25 ST when you already got 10.
You're not forced to pay the full $35 for the pure force, you can use a combination between paying USD and grinding.

that means that you can get stuff that's above your qi which was very hard before.
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Originally Posted by Unrealistic View Post
Can you sell items that were for TC for ST? for instance the Candy Locks are 7 St, does that mean you can sell that item back to staff or someone for ST?

I would like this to be a thing, it'd add another layer to the market. Although that would be another currency MS would have to moderate.
Originally Posted by Shock View Post
Also wait, so does this mean we'll be able to use Shiai Tokens to trade with eachother soon?

No, ST will remain untradeable.

Originally Posted by Swaves View Post
An example, if a low qi player wishes to purchase a no qi Pure Force, there'd have to save up 35 ST - an extremely difficult challenge for any player, especially less experiences players. This equates to winning +15 highly contested event squad held in-game tournaments, which aren't easy to win in the slightest.

Players generally aren't supposed to be able to obtain items with Qi requirements that exceed their belt easily. This update allows them to eventually get stuff without investing real money - if they keep winning ES events, logging in daily etc. There are no plans to simplify that even further.

Originally Posted by Jojo View Post
Do you think maybe St can be used as a discount on the items and then the rest can be bought with tc?

Probably not, we'd like to keep payment possibilities as either TC or ST, not both.

Originally Posted by FighterKHV View Post
Also, will some sets like Impure/Sakura/Spring etc return to ToriShop using new Shiai system or they still stay as limited edition ones?

Yes, we'll be bringing them back to shop. Will still likely stay somewhat limited (either being available for purchase for a short period of time, or super low stock).

Originally Posted by Unrealistic View Post
Can you sell items that were for TC for ST? for instance the Candy Locks are 7 St, does that mean you can sell that item back to staff or someone for ST?

Shiai Tokens are still untradeable and there are no plans to change that - so no, you won't be able to exchange items to ST with other players, be it staff members or regular users.
Originally Posted by Shock View Post
Same, I'd def sell these clout goggles

Read above.
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