Toribash
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Ranked & Economy
Ranked
First of all, sorry If you have already discussed about this.
I am sure it would be better if you replace judofrac for boxshu, and TK for erthTK.


Economy
I have read and noticed there is a problem with TC. I have had no time to think about something big (like some players did) but I have thought that "EBets" could help.

Normal EBets:
Rakes go to dp

New & temporary EBets:
Rakes go to dp until it reaches 20k, then rakes would be sent to an admin and taken out from TB or something.

I know this is slow, but it is still a way to solve palliate this situation.
Last edited by Martin; Jun 13, 2019 at 03:13 AM.
Ranked mods are absolutely fine, they're competitive, popular and mostly liked by majority of players. There's always going to be differing opinions, but current mod rotation is quite good compared to previous ones.

Sinking TC won't solve the issue. Devs simply don't know how to run a healthy economy by randomly making everything on the market cheaper and allowing to spawn millions of TC each week thanks to TC boosters amongst many other things. Besides, hosting a bet server is one of the least efficient ideas of sinking TC I've ever heard of.
Last edited by Smaguris; Jun 12, 2019 at 08:18 AM.
judofrac is not fine/competitive/liked... go in-game. You might be right with TK though.

And yes, as I said, it's very slow to sink TC with EBets (at least it's fun) so the discussion is open, you could suggest something too.
judofrac is competitive, afaik it is liked amongst experienced players but less so amongst newer players.


Sinking TC in that manner is like taking water out of the ocean with a syringe, its not enough to make any tangible difference
Don't dm me pictures of bowls that you find attractive.
Originally Posted by Martin View Post
go in-game.

We all know the theory, the thing is that everybody says "This mod sucks" as simple as that.

And again, we all agree that it's very slow to sink TC with those EBets, but they would be better than hosting ETourneys (thing that generates more TC).
I'm not talking about a solution, Its objective would be to palliate devaluation, not to solve it.

To judge this right you require to understand its objective.
"its not enough to make any tangible difference" because it's not meant to make any tangible difference.
Last edited by Martin; Jun 13, 2019 at 01:17 AM.
I like this reflection you've had. I still think Boxshu could "balance" (offensive/defensive) better than judofrac.
Originally Posted by Smaguris View Post
Ranked mods are absolutely fine, they're competitive, popular and mostly liked by majority of players. There's always going to be differing opinions, but current mod rotation is quite good compared to previous ones.

Sinking TC won't solve the issue. Devs simply don't know how to run a healthy economy by randomly making everything on the market cheaper and allowing to spawn millions of TC each week thanks to TC boosters amongst many other things. Besides, hosting a bet server is one of the least efficient ideas of sinking TC I've ever heard of.

bring back buying avatars signatures for TC
Originally Posted by Martin View Post
And again, we all agree that it's very slow to sink TC with those EBets, but they would be better than hosting ETourneys (thing that generates more TC).
I'm not talking about a solution, Its objective would be to palliate devaluation, not to solve it.

To judge this right you require to understand its objective.
"its not enough to make any tangible difference" because it's not meant to make any tangible difference.

This would not palliate devaluation. Crucially, the difference in magnitude between what could be sunk here compared to whats generated each day is so small that its completely futile to try to tackle the problem this way.


The "every little helps" mentality only works when its a difference each individual person can make which when taken across all the people adds up to make a big difference. In this case, its not lots of small differences adding up to make a substantial one, its just an insignificant difference that doesnt help the problem in any way.

EBets being hosted more I can agree with but only becasue the event is good not because it tackles tc devaluation in any way.
Don't dm me pictures of bowls that you find attractive.
judofrac even among the duelers back then and now nobody likes that mod, its too random and bullshit for anyone to take it seriously to duel in, even if you do a move that prevents you from frac'in usually, the opponent moves his shoulder up and your whole arm breaks, its literally a pointless mod and hence why no dueler really talks about it or even duels in it since nobody really likes it.
Originally Posted by SmallBowl View Post
The "every little helps" mentality only works when its a difference each individual person can make which when taken across all the people adds up to make a big difference. In this case, its not lots of small differences adding up to make a substantial one, its just an insignificant difference that doesnt help the problem in any way.

Well, you are right. You got what I said and proved me I was wrong. Maybe Hampa should spend 1000 USD on TC and sink it all...
Originally Posted by iTemp View Post
judofrac even among the duelers back then and now nobody likes that mod, its too random and bullshit for anyone to take it seriously to duel in, even if you do a move that prevents you from frac'in usually, the opponent moves his shoulder up and your whole arm breaks, its literally a pointless mod and hence why no dueler really talks about it or even duels in it since nobody really likes it.

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