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Organization Outreach
Hey guys, I've got some questions for you
So we have been looking over organizations for a little while now. There are some orgs like TMMA, Indonizer, OBT, ORMO, unofficial orgs, etc. that go through spurs of activity, but the majority of them are either super inactive or dead. With the new forum overhaul coming soon, we're trying to figure out a better way to organize organizations (see what I did there? not funny? didn't laugh? okay). With places that have relaxed rules existing like Off Topic; we could condense orgs down and put them there. Another alternative would be to delete them outright, and give certain orgs a sub-forum relevant to what they do (i.e. ORMO getting a sub-forum in Replays).
What do you guys think about organizations? In their current state, they're really a big mess and don't serve any function. What I'd like to know from you guys is:
How much do you value organizations?
What could be changed about organizations in order for them to be fun and functional? (I did it again somebody please stop me)
Would you be satisfied with any of the potential solutions listed above? If so, which one?
If there's any other ideas you'd like to share regarding organizations, I encourage you to share those as well.
Here's a poll with a free response section included if you don't want to post here: CLICK ME!
So we have been looking over organizations for a little while now. There are some orgs like TMMA, Indonizer, OBT, ORMO, unofficial orgs, etc. that go through spurs of activity, but the majority of them are either super inactive or dead. With the new forum overhaul coming soon, we're trying to figure out a better way to organize organizations (see what I did there? not funny? didn't laugh? okay). With places that have relaxed rules existing like Off Topic; we could condense orgs down and put them there. Another alternative would be to delete them outright, and give certain orgs a sub-forum relevant to what they do (i.e. ORMO getting a sub-forum in Replays).
What do you guys think about organizations? In their current state, they're really a big mess and don't serve any function. What I'd like to know from you guys is:
How much do you value organizations?
What could be changed about organizations in order for them to be fun and functional? (I did it again somebody please stop me)
Would you be satisfied with any of the potential solutions listed above? If so, which one?
If there's any other ideas you'd like to share regarding organizations, I encourage you to share those as well.
Here's a poll with a free response section included if you don't want to post here: CLICK ME!
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Personally I don’t see any historical value in dead message boards. It’s dead because the people who kept it alive are no longer around. If there is something of informational value that needs to be kept then copy and paste it into the new thread. Team Aikido has a ton of history but all the good stuff we archive in our knowledge base. Other orgs should do the same. Then just cut out the fat. Same should be done throughout the forum not just for Orgs.
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Originally Posted by Footlox
Personally I don’t see any historical value in dead message boards. It’s dead because the people who kept it alive are no longer around. If there is something of informational value that needs to be kept then copy and paste it into the new thread. Team Aikido has a ton of history but all the good stuff we archive in our knowledge base. Other orgs should do the same. Then just cut out the fat. Same should be done throughout the forum not just for Orgs.
The dead orgs archive will be "hidden" just like the dead clans sub-forum, where you have to manually write the forum display number to access it.
Originally Posted by Bison
Question about last point.
Replay making related organisations can be placed in the "Replays" section, but what about organisations related to competitive mods?
Rest of solutions look good.
Every single mod based organization is just about dead. TMMA is the "least dead", and their most recent post in their board was four weeks ago. Personally, I don't think this kind of activity warrants any special spot on the forums. I know TMMA mostly discusses in discord anyway, I'm sure they would agree with me on this.
As for the other mod based orgs, they haven't seen any kind of activity since June/July. I don't see them making a comeback any time soon.
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The only way I can SOMEWHAT agree with org removal is if we get language based channels on the official TB discord with at least 2 "local" mods for each channel.
Language based organization serves a much greater purpose than mod based orgs, as the whole forum is in english, they are able to welcome and mentor newcommers while offering them a comfortable place to stay and interact. I remember being such newcommer when I could barely speak english in 2008.
The community is pretty small right now, and that reflects directly on the activity of such organisations, which doesnt mean they are not useful. Perhaps advertise them in-game somehow?
On the other hand, as said before: I'd gladly delete the BTO discord if we got at least a channel on the Toribash Discord with 2 or 3 portuguese-speaking mods. (by mods I mean at least having the power to delete messages). Since discord has a maximum of servers you can be in, and the official tb discord has a much longer reach, there's no point of each org (at least language based orgs) having their own discord. And if you add that to the fact that the community is already slowly migrating over to discord... I think that could be a viable alternative.
Perhaps, if things work out this way, maybe even a category with more than one text channel per language and even one voice channel?
I still rather not having language based orgs entirely removed, though. As the game gets bigger (hopefully) multi-language support only becomes more necessary.
ps.: And a fully localized game is completely useless if it forces the userbase to speak english for any minor interaction due to the fact that there's no other areas on the forum you can speak your native language.
Language based organization serves a much greater purpose than mod based orgs, as the whole forum is in english, they are able to welcome and mentor newcommers while offering them a comfortable place to stay and interact. I remember being such newcommer when I could barely speak english in 2008.
The community is pretty small right now, and that reflects directly on the activity of such organisations, which doesnt mean they are not useful. Perhaps advertise them in-game somehow?
On the other hand, as said before: I'd gladly delete the BTO discord if we got at least a channel on the Toribash Discord with 2 or 3 portuguese-speaking mods. (by mods I mean at least having the power to delete messages). Since discord has a maximum of servers you can be in, and the official tb discord has a much longer reach, there's no point of each org (at least language based orgs) having their own discord. And if you add that to the fact that the community is already slowly migrating over to discord... I think that could be a viable alternative.
Perhaps, if things work out this way, maybe even a category with more than one text channel per language and even one voice channel?
I still rather not having language based orgs entirely removed, though. As the game gets bigger (hopefully) multi-language support only becomes more necessary.
ps.: And a fully localized game is completely useless if it forces the userbase to speak english for any minor interaction due to the fact that there's no other areas on the forum you can speak your native language.
Last edited by Immotay; Oct 1, 2019 at 02:43 AM.
