Originally Posted by skizz
damn
is there evidence of this happening? why hasnt he been banned for this either?
if there is evidence then that’s very hypocritical of the leader of alpha
He hasn't been banned because his scams are usually illegal (nobody can report), or USD scams.
McFarbo: you know that you and the people who Velo allegedly scammed have done the same many times. How many bans do the 4 of you have combined?
Even if what you say is true, you can’t blame him for not treating you or the people you mentioned fairly, because they don’t treat him and other people fairly. Velo did not start it, you were doing it long before he even began dueling. As far as I know, he is fair to people who are fair to him.
And I share the same view on duels: you simply can’t be fair to somebody who you know will take advantage of you, it’s too big of a handicap.
Anyway, you are comparing scamming a person with whom you have grudges against each other and who you know will scam or take advantage of you to stealing money from an unsuspecting person who treated you fairly. While behavior in the first example is understandable in current circumstances, where you all basically hate each other and jump at every opportunity to take advantage, second example is very different: there was no mutual hate, there was only greed and shamelessness of one person, that were so overwhelming, that not even knowing and seeing that the other person treats them fairly with no incentive could stop them from taking advantage of that person. This could be the root of your constant petty quarrels and scams – somebody’s decision to scam for the first time, to play dirty for the first time against an unsuspecting opponent.
Even if what you say is true, you can’t blame him for not treating you or the people you mentioned fairly, because they don’t treat him and other people fairly. Velo did not start it, you were doing it long before he even began dueling. As far as I know, he is fair to people who are fair to him.
And I share the same view on duels: you simply can’t be fair to somebody who you know will take advantage of you, it’s too big of a handicap.
Anyway, you are comparing scamming a person with whom you have grudges against each other and who you know will scam or take advantage of you to stealing money from an unsuspecting person who treated you fairly. While behavior in the first example is understandable in current circumstances, where you all basically hate each other and jump at every opportunity to take advantage, second example is very different: there was no mutual hate, there was only greed and shamelessness of one person, that were so overwhelming, that not even knowing and seeing that the other person treats them fairly with no incentive could stop them from taking advantage of that person. This could be the root of your constant petty quarrels and scams – somebody’s decision to scam for the first time, to play dirty for the first time against an unsuspecting opponent.
Originally Posted by Diamond
McFarbo: you know that you and the people who Velo allegedly scammed have done the same many times. How many bans do the 4 of you have combined?
Even if what you say is true, you can’t blame him for not treating you or the people you mentioned fairly, because they don’t treat him and other people fairly. Velo did not start it, you were doing it long before he even began dueling. As far as I know, he is fair to people who are fair to him.
And I share the same view on duels: you simply can’t be fair to somebody who you know will take advantage of you, it’s too big of a handicap.
Anyway, you are comparing scamming a person with whom you have grudges against each other and who you know will scam or take advantage of you to stealing money from an unsuspecting person who treated you fairly. While behavior in the first example is understandable in current circumstances, where you all basically hate each other and jump at every opportunity to take advantage, second example is very different: there was no mutual hate, there was only greed and shamelessness of one person, that were so overwhelming, that not even knowing and seeing that the other person treats them fairly with no incentive could stop them from taking advantage of that person. This could be the root of your constant petty quarrels and scams – somebody’s decision to scam for the first time, to play dirty for the first time against an unsuspecting opponent.
That’s why he just scammed Jenson out of a 20 usd vs his 400k duel two days ago? I am pretty sure Jenson has never scammed anyone before and he is also probably one of nicest and most honest players I’ve seen on this game. On top of that Jenson said he is trying to get money to help his mother pay off a debt of hers and here is Velo scamming him $20 he could have used to help his mother out. Or sorry, in your words, Velo is actually a thief and stole from Jenson! So please don’t try to play the “he can do bad stuff to you guys because you guys have done bad stuff before him” card...
I like ya cut g.
scammer getting scammed, while other scammer defending scammer after scamming scammer
damn my english so good
damn my english so good
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Originally Posted by Diamond
McFarbo: you know that you and the people who Velo allegedly scammed have done the same many times. How many bans do the 4 of you have combined?
Ok so you're basically saying that everyone who Velo scams deserves to be scammed based on the assumption that they might have scammed in the past? Velo scammed Jenson out of 20$ and I have the evidence. Jenson is a good person who legitimately lives in poverty and has needed donations before, even FistOfLife gave him 2-3m TC to sell, so even if everyone else who Velo scammed in the last month deserved it, Jenson surely does not, for someone like Jenson this could be very bad.
Originally Posted by Diamond
Even if what you say is true, you can’t blame him for not treating you or the people you mentioned fairly, because they don’t treat him and other people fairly.
Even if Velo is treated unfairly (which he isn't, he's actually treated pretty well considering all the things he's done this last month alone), how does that make it ok for him to steal from people?
Originally Posted by Diamond
Velo did not start it, you were doing it long before he even began dueling. As far as I know, he is fair to people who are fair to him.
More assumptions.
Originally Posted by Diamond
And I share the same view on duels: you simply can’t be fair to somebody who you know will take advantage of you, it’s too big of a handicap.
You share the same view on duels as who? Because I don't think sending my part of the wager from a duel I lost is 'being taken advantage of'.
Originally Posted by Diamond
Anyway, you are comparing scamming a person with whom you have grudges against each other and who you know will scam or take advantage of you to stealing money from an unsuspecting person who treated you fairly.
What I am trying to do is point out your hypocrisy as you won't even take action against your own clan member.
Originally Posted by Diamond
While behavior in the first example is understandable in current circumstances, where you all basically hate each other and jump at every opportunity to take advantage.
Hate is a pretty strong word and I personally don't hate anyone that duels I'm just very competitive.
Originally Posted by Diamond
This could be the root of your constant petty quarrels and scams – somebody’s decision to scam for the first time, to play dirty for the first time against an unsuspecting opponent.
And this is only staff to blame for not enforcing rules properly, and not taking the time to make an actual safe duel system.