Originally Posted by tabby
furthest ive been with armor king is savior - overlord when i did a quick rank rush on an alt but rn i don't play ranked so im probably at about mid - high yellow level so i'd say my fundamentals are ok
back when i was that rank i was always scared of punishing with DU because i was a massive pussy and wasn't confident in my execution but now i don't give a shit and party hard so im landing DU pretty much every time i throw it lol
i'd be a lot better if i wouldn't party so much, but i found that caring so much about my gameplay made me rather upset at the game because ak is so difficult in the neutral
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honestly 10 moves is all you need, the difficulty for kazuya isn't knowing his moves its knowing how to apply them
using him is easy but using him well is the hard part
do you hit anyone else with du or is it just me lmao
90% of the du you throw connect because im coincidentally pressing *anything* at the same time and get hit by it for a 60+ damage combo
if i manage to block it its -10 but i never punish it because i'd have to do the jab punish before du connects because input delay cool
kazuya is a very difficult character to use, you can say "just 50/50 lol" but as soon as kazuya gets blocked there is 0 way to get momentum back except for resetting the neutral or hellsweeping the momentum away from the opponent
i desperately need to find another character to play that suits my playstyle besides kazumi because tabby doesn't enjoy
also i need to work on my fundamentals, i can barely backdash and sidestepping? never done before. basic punishment
not me. spacing and distance control? lolthe only thing im good at is wasting my time with pewgf and spamming ewgf
I mean kazuya is exactly just a 50/50 machine. Sure he is difficult when it comes to hands, but he is certainly one of the easiest characters in the game when it comes to the head.
Jin/DVJ are better characters to practice fundamentals with if you still want to spam ewgf. But DVJ still has that get out of any situation noobkiller u4 and his 50/50 card.
BUT if you are not planning on becoming a high level tournament player, just play whoever. Its way too common for non competitive players to worry about their fundamentals and burn themselves out with the game, when they dont even plan on competing.
Edit: In this context fundamentals dont mean just learning the basics of backdashing, sidestepping or poking. But really focusing on, and perfecting them for hundreds and thousands of hours.
Jin/DVJ are better characters to practice fundamentals with if you still want to spam ewgf. But DVJ still has that get out of any situation noobkiller u4 and his 50/50 card.
BUT if you are not planning on becoming a high level tournament player, just play whoever. Its way too common for non competitive players to worry about their fundamentals and burn themselves out with the game, when they dont even plan on competing.
Edit: In this context fundamentals dont mean just learning the basics of backdashing, sidestepping or poking. But really focusing on, and perfecting them for hundreds and thousands of hours.
Last edited by cowmeat; Jan 25, 2021 at 05:09 AM.
Originally Posted by phish
do you hit anyone else with du or is it just me lmao
90% of the du you throw connect because im coincidentally pressing *anything* at the same time and get hit by it for a 60+ damage combo
if i manage to block it its -10 but i never punish it because i'd have to do the jab punish before du connects because input delay cool
press buttons less and i will do it less
Originally Posted by cowmeat
I mean kazuya is exactly just a 50/50 machine. Sure he is difficult when it comes to hands, but he is certainly one of the easiest characters in the game when it comes to the head.
you really think so? i've had the exact opposite experience with kazuya. i've found most of his moves super easy to do (you have ample time to do cd inputs when required) and ive found a majority of his combos relatively simple to do. i've always found the difficulty in kazuya in applying and understanding the moves, not doing them. kazuya's character becomes real gameplay and real mindgames far before any other character if we talk about natural progression because he has so little else to rely on
i mean sure, when you look at him like a green rank you really can just spam 2 moves and get away with that, but i think he's much deeper than that and requires a lot of understanding to play well
[16:26] iris: 😭 /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm KMNFAOFO AOLMF AOFASMO
[16:26] tabby: ???????????????????
Its actually the exact opposite, hes very difficult at lower levels of play when your defence isnt that good. Kazuya doesnt have that many good universal tools to stop aggression.
DF2 is risky, df4 is highly - on block and m4 has abysmal range.
Once you have solid defence the gameplay just becomes enforcing your 50/50 and keepout at range with ewgf.
Kazuya really just gets simpler and simpler the higher levels you get to.
That isnt to say he is ever an easy character, but he really doesn't have to think that much in offence.
Most of his difficulty is in hands.
Mix up your 50/50 and ewgf timings with wavedash and enforce frames with 11.
DF2 is risky, df4 is highly - on block and m4 has abysmal range.
Once you have solid defence the gameplay just becomes enforcing your 50/50 and keepout at range with ewgf.
Kazuya really just gets simpler and simpler the higher levels you get to.
That isnt to say he is ever an easy character, but he really doesn't have to think that much in offence.
Most of his difficulty is in hands.
Mix up your 50/50 and ewgf timings with wavedash and enforce frames with 11.
Last edited by cowmeat; Jan 25, 2021 at 11:23 AM.
not a single rematch has actually worked today, every single time someone has accepted they leave a few seconds into the loading screen. is this a bug or a new way of saying fuck you to someone you lose to?
[16:26] iris: 😭 /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm /dl slipperyblcv1.tbm KMNFAOFO AOLMF AOFASMO
[16:26] tabby: ???????????????????
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