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Originally Posted by ymir View Post
you doin alright, hug?

Got a PM from him about 13h ago, he said he's fine and may post some updates here soon.



Some map data to understand the scale of the attack:
Red dots are recent confirmed attacks (Mar 25-27).
Interactive map here. Not live data (updated once per roughly 2 days).



Photos from the past several days:

Mariupol



Trostianets, Sumy oblast



Kharkiv and Kharkiv oblast



Kyiv



Kyiv oblast



Lviv





Several Ukrainian towns have been practically decimated (e.g. Volnovakha, 21k population).
Mariupol (430k+ population pre war) has 90% of buildings either damaged or completely destroyed.
Last edited by sir; Mar 29, 2022 at 09:26 AM.
Originally Posted by nanomech View Post
I like how the sanctions even helped russia, 80 rubles = 1$ and it's slowly getting even better for them

and they're selling gas for rubles to unfriendly countries

america is the one suffering ironically x D

Eitherways yeah i support russia.

This is what Russia wants you to think.
The fact is that they have implemented some very extreme measures to make it appear as ruble has returned to what it normally was, but this is a very short-term solution to control the public image and not cause a global panic.

If you look into it the only reason why ruble holds its current value right now is because Russia closed all of their internation stock markets and any mediums that could affect their currenctly. This, however, means that they are closing themselfls off to a lot of international businessess and import of goods. As you may already know there is a massive shortage of sugar and other essential items in many regions of Russia right now, and that will only get worse in time if Russia refuses to acknowledge the fall of its economy.
Originally Posted by nanomech View Post
Eitherways yeah i support russia.

Get some sugar, Ivan and buy your mother some women's pads if you can, because in Moscow it's already sold out.
"Sit down" because this information can SHOCK you

Economic isolation, blocking the remnants of independent media, inability to travel to most civilized countries, mortgage loan at 12% per annum (7% in 2021), attitude towards the majority of Russians as Germans during the Second World War and after that, in most of countries. "Dollar/ruble is 1/81" yeah-yeah, can you buy it, lmao? The Central Bank of the Russian Federation has banned the sale of foreign currency at the bank's cash desks, and only dollars can be withdrawn from deposits and only in the amount of up to 10 thousand IF you had it before 09.03.2022 and this is just a tip of an iceberg, boo, you need a serious reality check which you will get, don't even doubt it.Yeah, winning, Putin style. Big brain, 200iq speciflake out here!
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Originally Posted by sir View Post
Got a PM from him about 13h ago, he said he's fine and may post some updates here soon.

Thank you, buddy, for keeping this thread updated with an info. +
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Originally Posted by ymir View Post
you doin alright, hug?

I'm in a +- safe place now, still having air raid alert on a daily basis but it never landed here where I am now, it's a small town, I brought my mother and grandparents here. So yeah, I'm alright in the meaning of a safety.
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Tbh I stopped posting here actively because I saw no activity in this thread so I've made a conclusion that it doesn't bother people here but now I see some people still checking it so I'll keep it updated.

First of all, our army keeps on deoccupuying cities in Kyiv and Chernihiv regions and russian forces rapidly leaving their positions. Kyiv and Chernihiv continue to be hit by air strikes and rocket attacks, despite Russia's claims that activity in these areas has been reduced. Let's see how the situation is developing on the ground with the help of information provided by the Institute for the Study of War.

Kyiv and the surroundings of the Ukrainian capital. Here, Ukraine continued to launch counterattacks east and northeast of Kyiv.
The units that Russia withdraws from these regions, the units that suffered losses in the Kyiv region, should be redeployed to the east of Ukraine. However, according to experts from the Institute for the Study of War, "there they are unlikely to significantly strengthen the positions of Russian forces."
Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Ukrainian forces continue to repel attacks by Russian troops, primarily in Popasna and Rubizhne. Russian forces here have not been able to capture new territory in the past 24 hours.

Demydiv, Dymer, Lytvynivka, Gavrylivka, Kozarovychi, Zhovtneve, Hlybivka, Irpin, Yasnohorodka, Tolokun, Sukoluchchia, Lypivka, Gavronshchyna, Makovyshche, Mykolaivka, Khmilna were released in Kyiv region.
The Armed Forces also took control of the settlements of the Chernihiv region: Rudnya, Shevchenkove, Bobryk, Stary Basan, Novy Basan, Makeyevka, Pohreby, Bazhanivka, Volodymyrivka, Shnyakivka, Salne, Sofiivka, Gavrylivka.
Also, big news for today is liberated Bucha, Vorzel, Borodyanka and Ivankiv. Ukrainian flags are raised in the cities of the Kyiv region.

UPD.
As I write this post Kyiv region was liberated from the occupiers

This was stated by (https://www.facebook.com/ganna.malia...24154511076913) Deputy Minister of Defense Anna Malyar.

"Irpin, Bucha, Gostomel and the entire Kyiv region have been liberated from the invaders," she wrote.


As of 23 March
"The Ukrainian prosecutor's office has announced the first suspicion of the Russian occupier who raped a woman.
This was reported by the Prosecutor General's Office.
According to the investigation, in March 2022, a Russian serviceman broke into a private house in one of the villages of Brovary district in Kyiv region and shot his owner.
The wife of a civilian he killed was repeatedly raped by an armed villain, who threatened to kill her and her child. The invader was intoxicated.
Now the mother and child are safe.
This is the first suspicion announced to a serviceman of the aggressor state for rape (the suspicion was announced in violation of the laws and customs of war, parts 1, 2 of Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine).

Also, after Russian forces were ordered to move to self-sufficiency, looting of Ukrainian lands became a regular occurrence.
They steal everything from gold and savings to carpets, tires and even children toys. Not everyone manages to "realize" it for... Natural reasons, but reportedly In the city of Narovlya (Belarus), the occupiers set up a specialized bazaar selling property looted in Ukraine. The "range" of looting bazaar: washing machines and dishwashers, refrigerators, jewelry, cars, bicycles, motorcycles, dishes, carpets, works of art, children's toys, cosmetics. That is, everything that the Russians gained through looting and looting of civilians in Ukraine.
In the city of Mozyr (Belarus) there are Russian military KAMAZ trucks from which soldiers unload packages with things obtained by looting. The loot is sent to Russia by the Russian express delivery service SDEK.


Loot


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Also I would like to mention Mariupol and its defenders because of what they do, keeping the round defense and managing to make the enemy lose their machines and soldiers everyday, is just an ultrahuman thing. The blockade of Mariupol continues for 33 days already, the city itself is completely destroyed by russian attacks. Thousands of civilians were killed in Mariupol as a result of Russian invasion. As of 17 March reportedly 30,000 of Mariupol civilians managed to leave the blocked city and those who left tell their stories and this is just pure horror. Inhuman conditions, no electricity, no fresh food, no butane, no fresh water. Cold and starvation, some people are dying of diseases, some of the stress, some of the famine, some of the bombardments/being shot by RF/burned alive in their houses (when there were houses left).
People bury corpses in yards and playgrounds, building homemade crosses.

Letter, that a man passed to people, while they were leaving from Mariupol, so they can give it to his relatives


It says "Dima, mother died on March 9, 2022. She died quickly. Then the house burned down. Dima, forgive me for not saving you. I buried my mother near the kindergarten.

Below is a map of the grave

I love you."

graves

Last edited by Hug; Apr 2, 2022 at 07:59 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
GLORY FOR UKRAINE
I want to make it clear that any further attempts to spread literal Russian state propaganda and deliberate disinformation will be met with severe infractions.

Thank you for taking the time to give us a first-hand account of what’s happening Hug, please don’t hesitate to get in touch if anyone is giving you grief.
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Originally Posted by lillian View Post
I want to make it clear that any further attempts to spread literal Russian state propaganda and deliberate disinformation will be met with severe infractions.

Thank you for taking the time to give us a first-hand account of what’s happening Hug, please don’t hesitate to get in touch if anyone is giving you grief.

Thank you for having my back, despite our mutual enmity in the past (at least for me).
But none of these commentators are giving me any grief, only laughter and contempt. They only bark, and when we'll win they gon change their side as fast as they change Kleenex on their work desk.
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Aside from casualties, murdered people with hands tied behind their backs and bullet wounds in their heads, which were discovered by our forces in deoccupied cities, they also discovered murdered dogs, cows, and horses that were killed by rashists before the retreat.

The horses were burned alive: in Gostomel the occupiers burned the stable


In the Kharkiv region, rashists bombed and then shot the cows of the agricultural farm "Agromol"


You can also check the UA Animals Facebook page, it's an animal rights volunteer organization, they post a lot of info regarding animal victims of russian attacks. https://www.facebook.com/UAnimals.official

When the Russian brave troops retreated, they also cut bags of grain that they stole and scattered them so that no one could get them. They also wrote "RUSSIA RULES" on a fence. Surprised they didn't shit on the doorstep as well...
It's a pinnacle of "russian liberation".
Last edited by Hug; Apr 3, 2022 at 08:51 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
GLORY FOR UKRAINE
Originally Posted by lillian View Post
I want to make it clear that any further attempts to spread literal Russian state propaganda and deliberate disinformation will be met with severe infractions.

Could you expand on what that entails? For example, if I posted a video of Russian war prisoners being beaten and executed by Ukranians, would you consider that propaganda? I'm trying to figure out whether this thread is for the purpose of realistically documenting war or is it solely pro-Ukraine.

Also I'd like to add that even in this thread there are few instances of Ukranian propaganda, yet that is severely overlooked as they are the "good guys". Regardless of your political views I think if you're going to ban propaganda, apply it to both sides at the very least.

In my honest opinion, even though I'm 100% pro-Ukraine, creating conditions where the oposing view can't even express their beliefes does more harm than good. There's no conversation and food for thought to be had when everything is one-sided. Let the opposition express their opinions, even if they're based on complete propaganda (minus the obvious trolls that just ragebait) to understand where they get their information and potentially come to more healthy conclustions.
Last edited by Smaguris; Apr 4, 2022 at 03:30 PM.
My condolences to all the people and families of Ukraine :/


No one deserves to have their life taken, we never want the stories we read in the books come true again. Stay safe and keep us updated!

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Originally Posted by Smaguris View Post
and where they get their information and potentially come to more healthy conclustions.

The only healthy conclusion you can have on this topic is that Putin's Russia is a new Nazi regime, that currently tearing and torturing my country and my people. Murdering, raping and marauding. Hate to hear the messages from so-called "Russian liberal mass media" who state that "it's unclear who and why murdered this people" in regard of the new footage from deoccupied cities such as Bucha, that shows dead civilians laying across the streets, most of them with hands tied behind their backs, mass graves in yards, and survivors, whose stories just a pure shock. And it makes me wonder if that's what happened there, what's happening RIGHT NOW on territories that still suffer under the occupation.
As for the videos of "Ukrainian" soldiers executing their captives, are you sure they are really Ukrainian? I saw one video, posted in a group of pro-Russian propagandist, who's hiding in Europe currently, and I was wondering
1. Why do they speak with a weird accent?
2. Why did they record is in case if that's the real execution which is, and everybody understand it, is a war crime?
3. How did he, the propagandist, get that video?
And other minor stuff such as why did he show half of his face, and location, and their camouflage etc.
GLORY FOR UKRAINE
Added NSFW tag to the thread as photos of war get more and more disturbing.

This is what Russia leaves behind: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/04/03...dry-etoy-voyny


Could you expand on what that entails? For example, if I posted a video of Russian war prisoners being beaten and executed by Ukranians, would you consider that propaganda? I'm trying to figure out whether this thread is for the purpose of realistically documenting war or is it solely pro-Ukraine.

I understand the point regarding "all propaganda bad", but I'm not entirely certain it's applicable in this current scenario.

Recording you speak about is horrible and is, if true, a demonstration of a war crime - but please don't ignore the officials' reaction. When we see cities destroyed to the ground, evidence of people raped and murdered by Russian soldiers, all that Putin's government comes up with is "that's not us that's all fake". They don't ever accept even the slightest idea that possibly some of those atrocities have been committed by their own army, which can't raise zero questions - especially considering their track record (e.g. denying plans to start war days before they started it). Ukraine's reaction to the torture video was, however, that they'll do a thorough investigation and would punish those responsible: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/31/...d-be-war-crime

Russia's officials have about a 2% chance of not lying in their statements. According to them, it's the "Ukrainian nazis" that suddenly resurfaced from somewhere and started slaughtering people by thousands while the brave Russian soldiers try to save everyone. A bit surprising that it only started happening February 24th at 5 am, but yeah we gotta believe them there, I guess?

Certainly Ukrainian propaganda exists and it's part of the reason why the world actually sees the destruction Russia is causing to Ukrainian cities and people. Yes, there will also probably be some lies spread around as well, e.g. number of soldiers killed on both sides - all of that we'll only be able to learn after the war. Are those lies critical and on par with Russia's lies? No.




TLDR; Stuff that's been confirmed by independent media is 99% safe to post here. If it's also been used by Russian propaganda to "prove their point about Ukrainian nazis" that wouldn't affect how your post is treated - but just make sure you've actually checked the sources properly first.
Last edited by sir; Apr 5, 2022 at 09:15 AM.