Toribash
Harassing other users is not allowed under any circumstance for any reason. If you're found guilty of harassing other users you will be punished.

Some instances of Harassment are inclusive (but not exhaustive) of: spamming, insulting, name-calling, impersonation, usage of slurs (including but not limited to: racial, transphobic, homophobic, or antisemitic slurs), and targeted disruption. We wish to maintain a friendly atmosphere and any form of harassment in public spaces will result in an infraction or ban being immediately issued.


“Public space” is defined as:
Game - Any room that is not password protected
Forum - The entire forum except for private boards




Regardless of what happened. This is taken from the Global Rules. Toribash clearly states that punishment for racial slurs only enforceable on the forum and in-game. Now I could understand if they enforce it on their own discord server. However, enforcing it on someone who did it in DM's is clearly toribash staff mismanaging the game.


Therefore I deem this ban unjustified, and this case solved.


Also someone wrote that things like this shouldn't be discussed on forum because its a witch-hunt. However I think that a witch-hunt is deserved if staff breaks their own rules.
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Originally Posted by Manitoda2 View Post
is what im doing directly related to ingame or just banter with my friends?

your argument falls flat when you realize that yonker isnt a friend of mine, and he sent me a racial slur as a direct reaction to something that happened ingame, which is targeted harassment

come on, dude
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also yonker said that im leaking personal information, as if he didnt just tell staff last night that he saw my webcam and tried to argue that im not even a black person

LOL

It's still a public space (in-game) wether your speaking with your friends or not. And whether you are black or "identify" as black still shouldn't be any leway with the use of that word. But a gui ban over a dm in a third party platform is absurd. That's like hoping on the Xbox with me and saying it in voice chat or through a dm message and getting banned.


The hypocrisy you display on this subject is quite hilarious. You can say it but no one else can. I don't condone this word or any of these ignorant slurs, but still I don't see the justification if your gonna be a hypocrite about it. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by Plague View Post
brother youre a grown ass man reporting someone calling you some way in dms

you're a grown ass man pressed over a videogame ban
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Originally Posted by Posiden View Post
It's still a public space (in-game) wether your speaking with your friends or not. And whether you are black or "identify" as black still shouldn't be any leway with the use of that word. But a gui ban over a dm in a third party platform is absurd. That's like hoping on the Xbox with me and saying it in voice chat or through a dm message and getting banned.


The hypocrisy you display on this subject is quite hilarious. You can say it but no one else can. I don't condone this word or any of these ignorant slurs, but still I don't see the justification if your gonna be a hypocrite about it. Plain and simple.

then they would report it if they were bothered by it??

you know what i would do if i were banned for it? serve my sentence. which i have for the toribash official server instance and i would have if MY FRIENDS had any issue and reported me to toribash staff for it.

im getting the feeling u guys are just upset your pay pig is gone

none of you actually care that he was racist to me and it shows
Last edited by skizz; May 10, 2025 at 05:05 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
Originally Posted by Manitoda2 View Post
you're a grown ass man pressed over a videogame ban
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then they would report it if they were bothered by it??

you know what i would do if i were banned for it? serve my sentence. which i have for the toribash official server instance and i would have if MY FRIENDS had any issue and reported me to toribash staff for it.

im getting the feeling u guys are just upset your pay pig is gone

none of you actually care that he was racist to me and it shows

you know what's the funniest thing? i don't even know the vast majority of people who write in this thread personally, seriously. you're really good at slandering and making up facts out of thin air
Originally Posted by Manitoda2 View Post
you're a grown ass man pressed over a videogame ban
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then they would report it if they were bothered by it??

you know what i would do if i were banned for it? serve my sentence. which i have for the toribash official server instance and i would have if MY FRIENDS had any issue and reported me to toribash staff for it.

im getting the feeling u guys are just upset your pay pig is gone

none of you actually care that he was racist to me and it shows

Being racist and calling someone a slur are not the same. I wouldn't care who was banned for it. It's the simple fact that the punishment was out of TB jurisdiction and is being treated as if he was in a public space. The rules on this are quite clear. But in any case whether it was reported or not, you did just admit to breaking that rule in game. So therfore punishment should be in order. This is a prime example of the -pot calling the kettle black- the hypocrisy of your argument is laughable.
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Originally Posted by Posiden View Post
Being racist and calling someone a slur are not the same. I wouldn't care who was banned for it. It's the simple fact that the punishment was out of TB jurisdiction and is being treated as if he was in a public space. The rules on this are quite clear. But in any case whether it was reported or not, you did just admit to breaking that rule in game. So therfore punishment should be in order. This is a prime example of the -pot calling the kettle black- the hypocrisy of your argument is laughable.

you're literally ignoring the fact that ive said multiple times already i HAVE been punished for everything that was worthy of punishing me for.

if the rules are changed or his ban sentence is even SLIGHTLY reduced this would turn from a case of a simple ban placed on a user who was racist to a case of favoritism + the possibility of ANYONE being able to be racist to someone from a videogame they both play as long as its private

by the way, may i remind you the screenshot you guys are so hung about is from 5 years ago?

its a case that has already been dealt with by staff and you're only bringing it up now to help your buddy.

i dont claim to be some type of angel that has never done wrong lol

thats why im not even interested in a serious argument with you morons who cant grasp the concept of consequences, being a person who is intimafely familiar with it

LIVE WITH YOUR DECISIONS.
Originally Posted by Manitoda2 View Post
you're literally ignoring the fact that ive said multiple times already i HAVE been punished for everything that was worthy of punishing me for.

if the rules are changed or his ban sentence is even SLIGHTLY reduced this would turn from a case of a simple ban placed on a user who was racist to a case of favoritism + the possibility of ANYONE being able to be racist to someone from a videogame they both play as long as its private

by the way, may i remind you the screenshot you guys are so hung about is from 5 years ago?

its a case that has already been dealt with by staff and you're only bringing it up now to help your buddy.

i dont claim to be some type of angel that has never done wrong lol

thats why im not even interested in a serious argument with you morons who cant grasp the concept of consequences, being a person who is intimafely familiar with it

LIVE WITH YOUR DECISIONS.

The point of my responce is that the rules Cleary dictate it is punishable if It had happened in game or in the forums. Not from any other platform. His ban isn't justified by anymeans. But again there is a huge distinction between using a racial slur vs being a racist.

Calling people morons multiple times isn't helping your case with this either. His ban shouldn't be perm. So it's kinda ridiculous. Besides didnt you instigate it? With gaining op changing the server settings and then banning him from the server. Littlerally instigated it. With what he did in aggravation isn't right but you started that one buddy. So I think his 1 month ban was sufficient enough considering his messages was done out of aggravation. I'm not backing him up on this bc "we are buddies" I don't even know the dude.... lol but I don't think he deserves that extensive ban.
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oh my word i had absolutely no idea that banning someone from a server in a videogame is a personal attack, oh man thats really bad

maybe i deserved more slurs if we're being real

get a grip man
How you love to resort to primitive manipulation when you have nothing to say. At the very least, I listed several other reasons that you decided not to mention so that your manipulation would seem convincing to those who did not delve into the essence of the matter. Bravo
Originally Posted by Manitoda2 View Post
you're literally ignoring the fact that ive said multiple times already i HAVE been punished for everything that was worthy of punishing me for.

if the rules are changed or his ban sentence is even SLIGHTLY reduced this would turn from a case of a simple ban placed on a user who was racist to a case of favoritism + the possibility of ANYONE being able to be racist to someone from a videogame they both play as long as its private

by the way, may i remind you the screenshot you guys are so hung about is from 5 years ago?

its a case that has already been dealt with by staff and you're only bringing it up now to help your buddy.

i dont claim to be some type of angel that has never done wrong lol

thats why im not even interested in a serious argument with you morons who cant grasp the concept of consequences, being a person who is intimafely familiar with it

LIVE WITH YOUR DECISIONS.

Okay, so… the thing you don’t understand or don’t want to understand is that the rules are essentially being bent or changed just to get him banned.
You’re the one benefiting from favoritism here, for some reason.
I’ve read the TOS and TGB multiple times, and nothing explicitly covers this kind of situation. And even if it did, it still makes no sense to ban someone over a private dm on Discord, an entirely different platform.
That’s literally why Discord has a block button. Either use it, act like an adult and resolve things properly, or if it really bothers you just throw an insult back if that makes you feel better.
According to the Toribash Global Rules, it says:

Harassment

We wish to maintain a friendly atmosphere and any form of harassment in public spaces will result in an infraction or ban being immediately issued.

“Public space” is defined as:
  • Game - Any room that is not password protected
  • Forum - The entire forum except for private boards
If it is brought to a moderator’s attention and found that your behaviour disrupts another player’s experiences; warnings, infractions, or bans will take place.

It’s even specified that private boards on the forum and password-protected rooms are not considered public spaces, so why should Discord DMs be taken into consideration? It makes zero sense.
And again, let’s be clear: EVERYONE HERE CONDEMNS RACISM.
People just don’t understand why this situation was handled so poorly. Calling someone the n word once while being rage-baited during a heated private argument doesn’t automatically make you a racist, it makes you toxic, at the very least. But hey, the good side is that it worked. The bait was successful, you got your screenshot, and now he’s banned. Well done.
Honestly, I’m not even sure anymore, but I’m probably risking my position as IF just by giving my honest, impartial opinion and standing up against what I see as an injustice against someone I don’t even know or have ever played with. ��
Luckily, I still have morals and enough common sense to recognize when something just isn’t right. The game is almost dead and everyone seems to be happy to ban people from the community for childish private discussions. Sorry but I love this game to much to let that happen without giving an opinion.
If the rules aren’t clear or no longer apply, then they should be revised, updated, or clarified. Not bent to fit someone’s "personal agenda". Laws are the base of any democracy, if they dont work, then nothing will.

This is my last post here, don't bother replying back because I really dont care anymore. This entire situation is just childish and pathetic. But hey, at the end of the day who am I right?
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