Toribash
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My Thoughts And Feelings
I am not writing this all out because of any form of official announcement, nor am I providing it because I am forced to do so, I am writing it out because I am someone who cares to give input, to provide a response to whose in anguish waiting for time to tick by in hopes and wishes that at least someone with the time to and energy that can will some words to mend the anxious.
To those who are truly concerned about things that have happened, you have every right to be. At the same time, there are staff who have had to look into, prove/disprove information and conclusions, over very serious and detailed periods of time as often stated in appeals, complaint areas, off-topic forum threads, and whilst I am only and Event Squad Member, I can tell you that there's people who have been just as concerned, and also disappointed with their findings in ways that just make people go silent, because there's nothing else to say.


There's a reason why GM's existed, Help Squad, ToriAgents, Ninjas, SMOD+ because there's levels to initiating actions within the game that can impact the community or staff groups alike, I myself am a staff member, a relatively new staff member that has tried really really hard to provide a fun experience for the game and from my point of view there's dozens upon dozens of times where people can forget every bad moment this game has ever had just to have fun temporarily, because of the players that engage in events, forum discussions, discord chats, and more.
Any game, any culture, any language, practically any way to effectively communicate via human connection regardless if it's a job, video game, family matters, politics, local/state/federal etc, is at risk for any kind of exploitation and bad actors and that includes Toribash, nothing makes this game special or unique in terms of who can come into the community, mask themselves with ulterior motives, and put up a front on being a genuine person with goals that benefit any specific group or event themselves. MOST STAFF in the history of this entire game, have been volunteer individuals who have either applied willingly or have been given the right of passage by the general community to apply for a position because they have been seen as someone who can be more esteemed and responsible than others.


This game, like every other game to ever exist with some kind of public facet of communication, have gone through processes of growth when it comes to communication maturity by players or privileged users, positively or negatively. Players will go through every length of exploitation or manipulation known to human achievement naturally to make friends, rivals, shed themselves of ignorance, learn new things, tilt people they don't like, and more.


You don't even have to be a staff member to look back at decades of information relating to this server, available servers promoted here and on forums, and on the forums himself, to understand the kind of development this game has been through, and STILL to this day there's so much more that can be done, because lots of the growth has come from the community INTERNALLY investing into each other to provide a better or worse experience.


There will be times where something insanely unbelievable will happen, where it reminds people about what we all really are(unless you're Toribot), which is a human being. Human beings can and have been capable of the best and worst things in life. There will be people who would know how to say all the right things and still destroy a civilization. There will be someone who will say all the worst things and possible make bad choices along with it and will be deemed icons. This is nothing new, regardless of the society or digital sphere it will occupy. There's even people who will not even say a single word, and still get to where they are because actions can speak volumes depending on who the actions are derived from.


I care about this game. There's thousands of people who also potentially care about the game just like me, just as much as there will be people who will not care at all and seek to gain from this community in the most covert way possible, or the loudest way. I initially wasn't going to say anything, because I felt that saying something felt worthless, as if nothing I could say will truly mean anything, which is possibly one of the worst ways you could betray not only yourself, your ideals, but those around you that will believe in you. I am typing this out to voice my struggles as not only a player, but someone who has been a lurker, watching and reading, and can truly say that I understand the pain and disappointment anyone could be feeling right now. I have read hundreds upon thousands of messages in the community, and can provide a simple reason for why we have a banlist like we do, because people can simply be terrible.


However, there's a reason why the game has progressed, why MMA is popular right now, why players are still trying to learn how to run, play comp mods, understand how the game works, apply for more responsible roles, make an effort to join clans and engage with people they enjoy being around, why players constantly plead for updates or fixes, and more...Because there's people who still know that so much more can be done with this game and it's community, with the good of the people and those who can see the good and believe in it. There's a reason why right now there's people contemplating dropping what they have done in the game to simply try something new or learn modmaker for the first time and really question the ideal gameplay or mod, because there are people who are interested in the potential good, the achievable good, the actionable good. I may be weird, I may be awkward to talk to sometimes, but I genuinely mean it in every way:


Replaymakers, modmakers, chat commentators, active clans, there's so many ways we communicate and tell ourselves constantly about how we interact with the game that can greatly overshadow the negatives that come with the pure fact that we play a game and communicate online or to those who've had a blessing or curse to know each other outside of the game.
There's a reason why legend lists exist, why we can be grateful to have staff maintaining the game, someone like Sir working on the game, players like Chev and Semari still actively playing the game and competing in events that mean something to their space in the community, Sneaky wanting to host art events, the new ES members coming from the recruitment drive constantly hosting events when I am unable to, ToriAgents fresh from recruitment trying to protect our community and provide a great and informative space, MS members checking in on their workflow providing certainty for duelers and marketeers or wandering window shoppers, Item Forgers wanting to bring more content to the game when they have the time and motivation, all of these actions and events are in every rightful way an example on people who want the game to keep going in their own way.


As much as there are people who have been known to pollute the game with rancor and malice, there's bountiful amounts of things this community is full of that allows me to keep playing and providing my time when I can to dedicate myself even if I might be annoying in doing so. I love this game, and there's people who enjoy it too, even if they are not on or type as much as I do.


I wish every single player that struggles internally to get better at the game, produce their own content either by mods, replays, or art itself, to not give up on themselves nor the reasons that have given you the will and strength to keep going. Take breaks, give yourself time to breathe, and most importantly HAVE fun.

Ah yes, this is what the people wanted in response to the Athin situation. An unofficial post in the off-topic board about how making replays, mods and participating in clans can help us forget about the crimes committed in our community.
#TEAMSNEAKY
Originally Posted by papes View Post
Ah yes, this is what the people wanted in response to the Athin situation. An unofficial post in the off-topic board about how making replays, mods and participating in clans can help us forget about the crimes committed in our community.



I am not telling anyone to forget anything in regards to whatever is going on, nor am I saying this is what people are wanting, It's what I want to do and what I am entitled on doing as a member of this community also, and to stand idle while I see only others wanting to farm or troll a situation while others are confused or upset, I'd rather provide something else to read if anyone really wants to read it at all. I may be apart of staff, but I am and always will be a player also. I'm not offering any dilemma or compromise by what I am describing in my post, in regards to what is going on now, just like how it's been stated before he has been banned and removed from the game and server. My post is not solely about Athin nor Hanna nor anyone else specifically who has committed any offense in this community, this is a post about my thoughts and frustrations, and if you have any, make your own post.

This is a serious topic, and I'm glad Szaszuniya brought it up.

Many of us started playing Toribash as kids or teenagers (I started at the age of 13).
For most of us, it was a wonderful experience that allowed us to meet new friends, compete together, take part in cool events, and share our mods, replays, and artwork with others.
That is why we should strive to provide such a healthy and safe environment for the youngest among us who are just beginning their Toribash adventure.

And if you (the reader) are a minor and you ever find yourself in a situation where someone insults you, makes inappropriate suggestions, or you simply feel they want to harm you, you should always let other staff members know.
Don't pay attention to your bully's position or reputation in the community.
Sometimes people can try to use even the smallest amount of power they have to intimidate others or exploit their low self-esteem to silence them.
This cannot be allowed to happen, and the truth should always come to light.
When something bad happens, don't hesitate and seek help immediately. I know there are many kind people here who will help you.

...and as always, sorry for my poor english x'D
hurh hurh hurh *chews grass*
Making a TLDR for this post might seem like hell in some way but I am still going to try for those that have asked:

You might notice by my convoluted post it's quite abnormal from my usual behavior, I am just overall frustrated by the way certain comments about the game during serious matters have affected me due to my mind being on the more fun and positive side of things. It doesn't help that I have a habit of overthinking and complicating my thoughts, and making the post that I have done will probably confuse and convolute things more for people already confused/frustrated. What I am truly trying to say with this post is there's so many people who try everyday to do great things within the game and have done great things in the game well before I showed up. While catching up on what is going on in regards with recent bans, I attempted to try explaining too many why's/how's relating to good/bad people with potentially malicious intentions and also provide faith that there's good people in the game trying to do their own thing with their friends or perhaps by themselves in efforts of just simply expanding with the game.


I tried to mention core parts of the games community like the legends list, certain genres of gameplay or perhaps functions of creation like art/replaymaking/modmaking and why to be grateful/proud that people have blessed the community with their experiences while newer generations attempting to follow suit with the time they have to play and learn. I cannot control what other people do or say. I shouldn't be a hypocrite and not follow my own advice on taking a break and having fun. In some way I felt bothered and wanted to speak.

TLDR for the TLDR; I am briefly upset because my favorite game has to deal with bad times, when so much of my view and experiences have been nothing but a great time. I see now that my emotions have gotten the best of me like a failed teamfight followed by a ggez skill issue be better type of crash out, and I shouldn't let certain comments or remarks cloud my spirit. Thank you for anyone who has tried interpreting my vertigo inducing biblical text of a yap, I swear I am not an LLM experiment and I really just overcomplicate things a lot.

Originally Posted by AlphaReject View Post
I am not telling anyone to forget anything in regards to whatever is going on, nor am I saying this is what people are wanting, It's what I want to do and what I am entitled on doing as a member of this community also, and to stand idle while I see only others wanting to farm or troll a situation while others are confused or upset, I'd rather provide something else to read if anyone really wants to read it at all. I may be apart of staff, but I am and always will be a player also. I'm not offering any dilemma or compromise by what I am describing in my post, in regards to what is going on now, just like how it's been stated before he has been banned and removed from the game and server. My post is not solely about Athin nor Hanna nor anyone else specifically who has committed any offense in this community, this is a post about my thoughts and frustrations, and if you have any, make your own post.


Thank you for the clarification. I'm sorry for my earlier comment. It's an awful situation.
#TEAMSNEAKY