Originally Posted by sir

Just fyi, getting access to game/server code won't make 20 years of data available after it's gone - and I doubt anyone's getting hands on it unless they buy out Toribash completely. And I'm not even speaking about (majorly useless, sorry) stuff that Nokia mentioned.


Once the servers go down, it's pretty much over for those who primarily play Toribash for its multiplayer aspect. SP players would only get slightly inconvenienced as their routine pretty much doesn't involve using any online functionality aside from occasional content sharing (which they would still be able to do on Discord or any other platforms) but for anyone who plays Toribash for any of its online features there'd be nothing left to do aside from playing a bunch of mods with no actual account system - that is, assuming there is a suitable version of the game server available.


As for the "they did servers for The Crew perhaps someone could do it for Toribash too" argument - no, you won't be able to do that unless you actually get the source code or a prebuilt version of a standalone game server that you can self-host. The Crew's multiplayer is/was P2P, you essentially "just" need to reverse engineer some bits of the lobby system to be able to make user clients connect to each other, you don't need to reinvent any of the game logic. Toribash multiplayer is authoritative, the game server is what's making everything work - it runs the simulation, it handles all the MP logic and so on.

Originally Posted by papes

You really dipped without a word to the community and stick around to stoke the flames on topics like this. What the fuck sir.

Originally Posted by victortb

I am specifically talking about the game being in a somewhat playable state post mortem, including multiplayer. With Toribash being open source it won't take too long for someone to reimplement multiplayer in some level, even with some sacrifices(belts, accounts, the server being one of the players, which itself can be solved by making a toribash client and server apps separately, etc).

This is what I believe you're saying exactly on the last paragraph, I don't see an issue with P2P besides not everyone being able to see it, and I don't personally think self hosting is a problem itself.

Originally Posted by sir

Would you rather have unrealistic expectations of what's going to happen? All multiplayer games eventually shut down, there's no way around it. Toribash will follow that route, too.

I never said Toribash is shutting down tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, I just tried explaining how things work. Reaffirming people that you can keep Toribash somehow alive by backing up player textures and forum attachments would be lying on my side because I know that just isn't true. In my opinion, people doing that would only waste their time and end up with a bunch of files they can't really do much with aside from keeping on their drive for memory's sake. Same goes for the hope that someone would be able to reverse engineer and put together at least bits of the required infrastructure to bring servers back on their own. That just won't happen unless you'd stumble upon some sort of a savant willing to build you a whole ass game for a pack of beer.

It may sound harsh to you but I am pretty certain barely anyone in this thread has any real idea of how multiplayer games operate, what the expenses are and so on. Which, to be clear, is completely fair as I wouldn't expect people who just play games to have a deep understanding of how things work under the hood - but it's always weird to me how a lot of gamers just assume some wild shit and then act offended when someone explains to them why those assumptions are false.

Also sorry, but I don't believe I own anyone any explanations neither on my job situation nor Nabi internal affairs. I've worked for the company for over 10 years, I'm grateful to hampa for the opportunity and it's been a fun ride overall. Unfortunately, it's come to an end and I haven't really been a Nabi employee since October.

Originally Posted by Capitalist

Doesn't affect me nor the people I mainly vc with. We don't give a fuuuuuuuck

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