No, let’s be an adult and formulate our own opinions. How exactly is it worse now for the average American? Please enlighten me on which points of life were better.

The problem is, you’ve never formulated your own opinion in your whole life. You most likely just regurgitate whatever you see on your TikTok feed.

But not to get sidetracked. I’d like you to name a singular thing that has gotten worse.

can you change your signature

A 2 second Google search, you're sticking your head in the sand like an ostrich.

https://www.epi.org/publication/47-w...is-first-year/

https://navigatorresearch.org/one-ye...ump-a-c-grade/

usa&israel are by far the most destabilizing, radicalizing countries in the middle-east, usa&israel are two countries with by far greatest history of creating and funding terrorist cells in other countries across the world
quit intervening in the region with your americant ass and stop starting pointless wars and quit participating and doing genocides

[mossad&cia]lucci
MOSSAD&TRUMP4LIF
World War 3PSTEIN
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>trump:PRESIDENT WHO ATTACKS IRAN IS WEAK BLABLABLA
>trump:BIDEN GONNA TACCK IRAN CUS HE WEAK
>trump:OBAMA GONNA WTTACK IRAN CUS HE WEAK

<trump attacks iran
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lets be real for second americans just want to kill people and profit out of it, american goal is to create destabilization and radicalisation in the region to excuse pointless invasion
your wettest dream is to have an ally that calls itself greater-israel and controls all land in middle-east, just so u can extract some oil and genocide ethnic groups that you hitlerites see as "barbaric"

americans+israel are modern day hitlerites and you are openly using the exact same rhetoric that hitler used in ww2 to excuse genocides and meaningless killing of already oppressed people, you do know that and you do it on purpose especially when every argument from you all who support this stupidity are reduced to "i just want to kill people" upon further inspection

shame on you
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historically you dont even need to look further than 20 years to witness what american and zionist imperialism in middle-east causes, it's obviously destabilisation and it is purely intentional.
the fact you first fund and intentionally give birth to the so called terrorist groups in the region, that you can later use as excuse to perform genocides is just pathetic and any person who defends this bullshit should get deplatformed everywhere and be locked in some basement, shame shame SHAME on you.

wonder why the countries are so destabilised now? oh yeah, it's cus of 100 years of oppression from the western imperialists who have intentionally destabilised the region by attacking and killing even democratically selected leaders in these countries, then literally funding radical groups to fight proxy wars against other groups in the region, then killing more people for western hegemonys sake and by that giving the people you on purpose radicalised some martyrs to fight and die for, and you do all this on purpose so you are able to cause wars against the "radicals" you just oh so "unintentionally" created & your stupid top 0,01% billionaires can profit off from, and then grift and weaponise geo-politics so useful-idiots such as lucci above falls for it and starts supporting wars and genocides cus these idiots who fall for this stupid grift dont even bother read news, are not in higher education, are completely clueless of all societal topics, and get all their information from shitter and truth social

just leave the region with your stupid shit and if you seriously defend this stupid bullshit just fuck off from the internet
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lets give iran nukes so they can exist in the region without having to worry about western imperialists killing them and destabilisating the region further
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but you are the terrorists, and did you seriously just forget about israel? you literally collaborate with terrorists who are actively doing a genocide, moron
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president who doesnt start new wars by the way

his supporters praise him for starting new wars, after they voted and praised him when he campaigned "i'll be the president who will end all wars and there will be no new wars"

the stupidity of these cult members and useful idiots
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one obvious thing would be transrights

or are you gonna deny the fact that donald trump has made trans rights significantly worse?
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https://translegislation.com
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there is evidence that usa has been bombing children intentionally but we know maga will eat whatever slop the chomo-trump will serve them

I'll attack this first, Your point that America is using the same logic Hitler used is quite hilarious when you take into account, the IRGC systematically have been murdering their own people for protesting against the regime in power. For almost 50 years, the Iranian people have been under boot by the terroristic cell of radical idealists that use Islam as a justification for their quite literal genocide of their own people. And not to mention, the numerous terror cells they were funding aswell. Hamas, Hoothi, PNT, etc, in the region, that are also terrorizing neighboring countries.

Now, do I support what Israel is doing in Palestine? I think any rational human being can agree that they went too far and need to be held accountable for their actions against he Palestinian people. But trying to equate us quite literally removing the head of one of the most prolific terrorist regimes to hitler? Yeah you lost me there. Unlike most people, I don't base my decisions on "israel bad so everything bad." No. I actually look at things as it is. The iranian people literally were getting killed in the thousands for protesting the regime, had their internet access cut off to stop the spread of news in the country. But yes, removing that regime was a bad thing. Please tell me more


And we can agree on this. The pointless wars, the constant underhand dealing with those terror cells over the years in these "deals" stretching back to the reagan days did not make anything better. But you're equating numerous issues into one. The America war machine loves wars. Boeing, Lockheed. They want war, yes. But you know how you stop a war? Cutting the head off of the snake. The Iranian people did not vote for this regime, have actively been harshly against this regime, and have been dying protesting this regime. But you're concerned about the .001% ? Even if they profit off of this, is it not worth it to liberate people who have been living in systematic oppression for half a century? Or are you that mad that some people we will never meet are going to make bank off of it.

You claim to be informed on this matter, which I don't doubt you have knowledge on the whole plythe going on in that region. But theres no way you can sit here and try to make this a "maga is stupid" agenda. Defending a regime who oppress and violate every known human right, even inadvertently, is insane to me. But I don't think you're issue is with whats going on in Iran. I think your issue stems from the current president.


We're not going to have this discussion via the toribash forums. But the only leg you have to stand on in this sense would be the push for banning gender affirming care to underage individuals. In which numerous countries have already banned. A child under the age of 18 shouldn't be able to make permanent, life altering decisions before they can understand the ramifications of it. If you want to argue about "oh they banned people from using the bathroom" , I will not entertain that, because that is not a right, defined in the Bill of Rights to all Americans. You're rights haven't been stripped, and this dogma that trump has stripped trans rights, and women's rights is asinine.



I'll do some reading and get back to you. Maybe you can change my mind. But will get back to you on this.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...ps-second-term

Compare this to Biden who also wasn't great but wasn't trying to actively destroy the country for his own benefit

The inflation was a necessary part of recovery from the turmoil of covid, which trump also made worse by somehow making it political to wear masks and take the vaccine which are bare minimums for safely preventing disease. Yes people have personal choice to not do those things but that's selfish

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/bidens-final-numbers/



This all is a bit of side track from the point of this thread though. I very much doubt this will lead to ww3 since only a couple countries are involved, just another middle east war like usual, maybe this time we'll exit early after not accomplishing anything meaningful

>the state of your political takes


ok(not really though lmfao)


what?


we already are u coward. and u r replying in the thread so the discussion is clearly happening here


theres consensus in medical research that the access to medical transitioning for younger individuals improves outcomes, especially regarding mental health. theres tons of studies about this, which is why professionals have been pushing it in that direction. there is literally no scientific evidence that would state "it's not good for trans individuals to transition earlier", the only reason u want to limit access to transitioning is that u want tranners to be miserable and suffer enough so the tranners end killing themselves over dysphoria that could been easily prevented

pointing out that some countries have banned something is really not evidence that it would be scientifically justified, and u want to bomb those countries for being oppressive anyways so whats the point



this is the most aids argument that gets repeated by right-wing grifters who fail to understand how anything works and fails to understand how medical research works, it completely ignores how these decisions actually work in practice and the argument in it is based on that one 90s study that gets misintrepeted as "brains develop up to 25 years of age" when thats not what the study even said, literally just google "brains develop up to 25 myth" and you find 4000000000 articles of scientists facepalming at your stupidity. essentially you just want to create a "waiting period" that has no basis in neurobiology or any science, and all professionals point out that delaying trans care would just worsen gender dysphoria, so what exactly is it that you want to achieve with this mayhaps you are little genocidal anti-gender freak?

when someone wants to start medical transition as minor it involves doctors, psychological assessments, and even parental consent alot of times. the whole process takes ages and is already oppressive and awful to go through usually because of people like blanchard was part of the team who worked on how transcare works in icd-10(still being used in alot of places, everyone should fight for icd-11 to come) and he pushed his outdated pseudo-scientific medical practices, into true mediical field at the time, it does not work like "kid just walks in and makes a random irreversible decision cus they stupid", and none of this has to do with anything because it's well established that being able to start transitioning earlier will significantly improve the transs individuals wellbeing, so let me ask again, what exactly is your point? mayhaps you are little genocidal anti-gender freak who wants trans people to suffer for no reason whatsoever and not get the care they need




hey pee police your rights are not limited only to what is explicitly written in the bill of rights, because alot of rights in modern societies come from legislation, court rulings, and broader anti-discrimination principles, you should know this before u spread these moronic fox-news arguments online

second of all, the argument u even brought upon pretty much goes "trans people=rapists" upon any further inspection, and its based on misconception that transwomen in womens bathrooms would go around raping women or something like that, when in reality that just doesnt happen and it's just completely baseless right-wing grift.
if you place transwomen in the mens bathrooms its actually extremely likely that the trans individuals would end up getting raped by men like you, because based on all the evidence trans ppl are over four times more likely to experience sexual violence compared to their cisgender counterparts, with nearly 50% of trans ppl experiencing sexual assault or abuse in their lifetimes so in addition to that you are a genocidal anti-gender peepolice and actively spread misinformation online you also want trans people to get raped


trumps policies do in fact restrict access to gender-affirming healthcare, that is literally limiting the rights and autonomy of trans people. also, because the influence of usa in the western-hegemony, trumps shitty policies tend to shape debates and legislation in other countries inside the western-empire, which effects me personally too, all the anti-gender freaks are connected and go to same conferences and listen to same anti-gender "professionals" when they come up with new oppressive changes




tldr; in the end what you are trying to argue is that these oppressive anti-gender changes and restrictions to trans-laws are good, but you are just being hateful, you're just wrong, you are being ridicilous, you've became the gestapo of toilets, the destroyer of science

Actually no. There is no consensus scientifically, as the science keeps changing when its needed to benefit the agenda. Nearly 15 years ago, Gender Dysmorphia was considered a mental illness and was treated as such. Now its celebrated and everyone needs to accept it. I personally do not give a fuck what adults do with their lives. But as a father myself now, I'd rather you let me teach my children.

Wanna know why theres no consensus? Because you cannot change biology. I personally respect everyones right to do as they wish. But thats aslong as it doesnt impede on others right to life, liberty and happiness. And quite frankly, the majority of America, and numerous other countries agree with this sentiment. Its not "anti trans," its quite the opposite. Its anti-mutilate children before they can even fully grasp the magnitude of what they're doing.

Yes! I'd like to not give children the access to irreversible puberty blockers, surgery they might regret later because THEY'RE KIDS. This talking point in the trans community is so hilarious because you always miss the point. Normal americans do not care what you want to do once you are a legal adult. We do care about children. And more importantly, how easy it is for children to be given these blockers.

And to your last point. The suicide rate in the trans community is somewhere around a little above fifty percent. And that was a study done under biden, when access to all of these ammenities were readily available. I do not want anyone to harm themselves. Everyone is entitled to their own sense of happiness in this world, BUT, we cannot just ignore common sense for literally less than 3% of the population. And lets not forget the detransitioners who have been advocating against giving these affirming care to minors, and telling their stories of how easy it was for them to get affirming care, sometimes without parental consent, and how they now regret that decision. Its not cut and dry, and theres no right answer as a whole. But I think the one thing most people can agree on is that giving that type of care.


Hey moron, the president can sign a law into effect federally, but the states have full control on what happens in their own jurisdictions. The people you should be upset at are biological women. They voted in mass against trans policies and overtuned numerous statues because they were not feeling safe in their own spaces. Guess what? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, welcome to democracy champ. Women were tired of having "trans women" in their spaces and voted overwhelmly against it. Is that a bad thing? No. Before there was steps transitioners took before they would try to assimilate into the different spaces. But nowadays, I can claim I am trans, and walk into a womens locker room with my full masculine looks and if someone says anything against it, THEYRE the bigot.

Also stop using the term cisgender. There are women and men, thats it. You can cope that my takes are "FOX News propaganda" but thats because you live in an echo chamber online and completely have deluded yourself that everyone who doesn't agree with you isn't an ally, and that everyone who opposes you is a nazi.

Let me ask you this, what have you done personally to support your movement? I can tell you, I personally have donated my time and money to these causes irl. But that doesnt mean I support EVERYTHING about it. Yes I can support human beings going through a human experience without completely agreeing with everything they say. Its called having a functioning brain, try it sometimes.


Norway, the United Kingdom, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and France all have taken steps against gender affirming care for minors. Protest them aswell.

Keep in mind, the Scandinavian countries are some of the most progressive aswell and they've used common sense.

Your argument is moot and cope. You are not under attack, the gestapo isnt going to break down your door and drag you away. You are fine. Just know the children won't be subject to being guinea pigs for this experiment any longer.



But anyways, I would like to get back to the actual topic of this thread. Idk why you, maya, and other trans people need to make every single argument a trans debate. You dont see me as a black man making every single argument a race debate.

there is, just because you dont believe in science doesn't mean it doesnt exist
https://sociology.cornell.edu/news/a...-effectiveness


it's called gender dysphoria you silly gestapo of toilets, besides what exactly is your point? do you think it's good they lobotomised gay and trans people in past


which is good, dont go around killing trans people please


yes you do, especially when adults need to pee, if you didn't you wouldnt be spreading misinformation and spending your time talking about it


are you against sex education what if your child has gender dysphoria and needs to transition


but there literally is a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals


"biological sex" is a clusterfuck of chromosomes, hormones, anatomy, and neurology, most of which are in fact modifiable to align with person’ physical state with their biological brain structure if necessary.
"sex as assigned at birth" is a guess, and it is a guess based on limited information available at a specific moment in time, most of the time this guess is correct, but sometimes it is not


no, you clearly don't


gac for teens/kids does not involve surgery, there is no "mutilation", gac usually involves reversible blockers to not get physically ruined by wrong hormones and to provide time for further maturity, surgeries typically(and mostly wrongly) are delayed until u turn 18

medical bodies like the AAP argue that denying gac is what actually threatens a childs right to life, trans youth face significantly higher rates of depression and suicide and studies show that access to affirming care drastically reduces these risks, thereby protecting their fundamental well-being




again, they're blockers and they are reversable. they wont get surgeries the moment they walk in the clinic, you're spreading misinformation.


didn't you just call dysphoria 'dysmorphia'?


until trans person needs to pee, you gestapo of toilets destroyer of science and statistics


epstein-class says the same about the kids right


so read scientific literacy and dont listen to tiktok grifters, puberty blockers are good



you are referencing this one 2015 transgender survey(it wasnt even under biden) that stated roughly 40%(not 50%) of transgender adults reported attempting suicide at some point in their lifetime, but you are missing the point that the suicide attempts tend to occur before transitioning, the rate of attempts drop once people receive support. research has consistently shown that the access to gac is a protective factor, and studies have found that youth who received gac had 73% lower rates of suicidality over a one-year period, so again you just are presenting misinformation and being ridicilous



you talk about common-sense? you are against gac, dont believe in any science written by professionals, and you talk about common sense


the detransitioners? there are less people detransitioning than 0,5% out of all trans people, and most the people who detransition dont do it because "they made a mistake", it's mostly temporarily due to external pressures such as lack of money, loss of family support, or workplace discrimination, not a change in their gender identity. the people who say "how easy it was for them to get affirming care" are mostly lying, there is much more to the process than you know and you are being ridicilous again



this dumbass "safety" argument is a myth and not backed by crime data, and civil rights are not subject to a "majority rules" vote, there is literally no evidence of "women voting in mass" against trans people. in fact polls like gallup and PRRI literally shows that women are more likely than men to support transrights and inclusive bathroom access


democracy does not mean the "majority" gets to vote away the fundamental rights of a minority. in usa you have the equal protection clause and title IX and both are designed specifically to protect marginalized groups from being "voted out", you little gestapo of toilets the destroyer of science and statistics



this is a lie again


yes it would be if it was true actually



nice strawman but this is not what happens, men "claiming" to be trans just to enter a locker room is a rhetorical scare tactic, not a reality, it doesn't happen and you are just being ridicilous and giving fox news talking points again.. trans ppl generally seek to blend in for their own safety as trans ppl are statistically much more likely to be the victims of assault in bathrooms than anyone else



cis cis cis cis cis, cissies mald cis cis



biology is not a binary, it’s a bimodal distribution and biology itself does not recognize a strict binary the way you mispresent it, there are nonbinary people and there are intersex people, and theres as many intersex individuals roaming around as there are people with red hair



you're coping cus ur arguments are literally fox news propaganda and nothing you have said so far is based on reality, i dont exist in echo chambers online and i call you a nazi only when u are being a nazi


wohoo lets do a personal "purity test" of who has done more for the cause....
drumroll.......
ok.. since you asked... as far as i know more than everyone else combined in this game, i'm extremely involved in activism and participate and organise protests alot, theres multiple lawsuits going to take out anti-gender individuals from positions of power, and i have been part in revolutionising trans healthcare in Finland since 2023 translaws came through, i personally found a insane loophole in it that demolished centralisated because they accidentally took it down without realising it, and oppressive trans healthcare monopoly of sitpolis will come down in couple years from now on partly due to my work, we are still working on this to allow people to get access in private side of transhealthcare which will make the process much easier and faster for many people.


this is still distraction from the facts, but anyways.
donating to a cause does not grant someone the authority to override medical consensus, u cant "buy" the right to redefine biology or ignore the american medical associations stance that gac is life-saving and necessary



u really cannot claim to support "human beings going through a human experience" while simultaneously u are advocating for the removal of the medical care that human beings and their doctors state is necessary to survive that experience, "supporting a person" but opposing their access to essential healthcare is a contradiction, not "having a functioning brain."



funny you mention the very countries i have been most active in, thanks for doing that



here is a sampling of supreme court cases ranging from conversion therapy to workplace discrimination and the criminalization of trans care for minors. it usually takes time to reach the supreme court, so at lower court levels, and the appellate levels between them, there is even more of Kaltiala's rhetoric, which has hardened in recent years. fortunately, this is not in all 50 states, but it is in many, and more is being added all the time. for example, the ADF is involved in some circuit courts, which are the judicial level between the state and federal (supreme court).

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2024/02/25/problematic-new-finnish-study-shows-trans-care-saves-lives/ examples of press freedom that finland lacks. the problems with the research and the researcher's political connections are explained clearly, and reference is made to finnish trans media, which is listened to more in the less right-wing parts of the united states than in finland

https://www.thestranger.com/queer/20...ressive-europe

"A New Era - Key Actors in Anti-Trans Conversion Therapy"<- link broken for me now apparently lol. but it's a very comprehensive report on attempts at trans conversion therapy in a modern context, including under the name 'exploration therapy' which is literally a term kaltiala used repeatedly to describe finland's approach to minors while serving as an expert witness in favor of floridas trans healthcare ban, and which she presented to healthcare professionals who meet with youth

"Trans Advocate’s Disco Sexology series", tells the story of several psychiatrists mentioned by the SPLC from a more historical perspective as trans medicine evolved. these psychiatrists are frequently cited in finnish trans research


https://www.splcenter.org/captain/
Very extensive reports on anti-trans pseudoscience. A Finnish study was the third most frequently cited in connection with the anti-trans legislative initiatives examined."

https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaki...ng-care-europe
“Claims that Norway, Sweden, Finland, and the UK have acted to restrict access to gender-affirming care are the latest misleading tactic in the fight against this necessary treatment.”

"Bathroom Law: Joel D. Doe et al. v. Boyertown Area School District et al. ( 2018 )"
"A group of students sued the Boyertown School District because the district allowed transgender students to use locker rooms and bathrooms consistent with their gender identity. The plaintiffs claimed this violated their privacy and religious beliefs. The court ruled in favor of the school district, stating that the policy was legal and supported non-discrimination."
"The document refers to Kaltiala's research, which states that transgender youth often suffer from psychiatric problems, the treatment of which should be prioritized. It has been interpreted here to mean [denying] recognition of gender identity in any form."
"Behind this document are several individuals with connections to [Riittakerttu] Kaltiala through the SEGM organization. For example, Andre Van Mol, who, according to these religious publications, also opposes abortion, stem cell research, and gender-neutral marriage."


the reality of finland

“In the study, more than half of the respondents reported hesitating to seek healthcare, and 72 percent had experienced some form of discrimination in healthcare during their lifetime. Situations emerged, among others, where healthcare staff misgender, treat clients rudely, hostilely, and inappropriately, and, due to a lack of information, leave gender minorities excluded from healthcare.
– The situation is bad and it feels like development is constantly going backwards, even though we are living in the 2000s. I thought that if even one person read my Master’s thesis and woke up to the issue, it would already be a victory, she states.” A Turun Sanomat news article from 2025 regarding a Master’s thesis on gender minorities' experiences in healthcare.

Official treatment recommendations are not named very clearly or in an easy-to-understand way, and even many specializing in trans issues did not know where to find them. One should have started by reading American anti-trans political documents, as so many of them are linked here; somehow, the bureaucratic documents of the Ministry of Social Affairs and Health (STM) have found their way all the way into Australian political debate regarding restrictions on trans care. No sources are found in the recommendations themselves, but the “Preparation Memo” and “Appendix 2” files contain the most questionable sources, such as [Sasha] Marchiano.
It is difficult to explain the arbitrariness of the treatment process on a general level; so many experiences have accumulated on the @transpolitiikka Instagram account that it is difficult to dismiss these as isolated cases. Studies conducted in other fields of science, listed below, also do not suggest that these are exceptional cases.

“'Describe to me how you masturbate?' – the position of trans youth in the healthcare system is bleak"

“‘We need to talk about the doctor’ – Trans people have been trying to talk about Kaltiala since at least 2019.”

collected information on how finland has been allowed to become a model country for the international anti-gender movement regarding transgender healthcare, if there is one article that most needs a dinnish counterpart due to its societal significance, it is the in-depth report by the Norwegian outlet Filter Nyheter: “Trans clinic director speaks at anti-LGBTQ hate group event — ‘no problem,’ says management.” It is an excellent report on SEGM, including expert opinions stating that it is not a scientific actor; unfortunately, it is behind a paywall. However, I obtained a copy of the story from the journalist who wrote it. Here is a machine translation into English; the original story is in Norwegian.
There is a much greater need for this in Finland, as our state authorities are involved in these activities many times over. [Here is] a short timeline of Kaltiala’s relationship with just one of SEGM’s anti-gender influencers, with source citations for everything.
But in Finland, media narratives and reality have become so detached from one another, the issue remains too marginalized and too risky, even though this is a matter where Finland wields unprecedented international influence. “Don’t Forget Your Homework” is a story by Evan Urquhart and my friend about Finnish gender identity clinics for minors.

the nordics are generally AWFUL places for trans people, and not "progressive" or anything, there is alot of fighting going on about making stuff better in these countries and i have been deeply involved in dismantling the oppressive systems and informing people about all this for years, and have most of the text already written down just needing to translate it to english, but i dont think it even matters to the gestapo of toilet, destroyer of science



the countries you mentioned are not scandinavian, you are talking of nordics and fennoscandinavia stop being an idiot when you are trying to sound smart please, also common sense nordics are notoriously awful and oppressive, not progressive at all. for transcare they are extremely awful and oppressive, and people move away from finland to get better care elsewhere, and finland as example has been ranked the most racist country in europe many times, dr kaltiala has been lecturer in "DO NOT HARM" conference, and if you have been exposed to anti-gender rhetoric at all, the event's name sounds like a clear dog whistle. the participant list confirmed suspicions that it is a gender-critical event. here are other speakers besides kaltiala:

stella o’Malley: founder and director of genspect, who has described her efforts to suppress teenagers gender identity in her therapeutic work, adding: 'I don't think you should feel empathy or sympathy for young trans girls.' she also participated in the bhutan conference.

rachel cashman: a campaigner against trans inclusion in schools and a supporter of women’s Declaration International (WDI). formerly known as the women’s human rights campaign, WDI has openly called for the 'elimination […] of the practice of transgenderism.'

az hakeem: a member of genspect and an active opponent of proposed conversion therapy bans. a former patient of hakeems filed a complaint with authorities against him regarding conversion therapy.

you can not be serious at this point


no my arguments are educated and i'm actually involved in these things, and have gone through process of transitioning as child/teenager, so i just kinda know what i am talking about.
you on other hand are just a moron who fell for tiktok grifter talking points and fox news propaganda


if you genuinely are against science this hard i cant help you


you asked a question and i responded with trans-rights, and then u went on this gigantic parade where u go against all science and research. you've become gestapo of toilets, destroyer of science


ok

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