Toribash
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Suggestions [Forum Restructuring]



I think its about time we had some form of update here on the urban forum. I'm not sure of what to do exactly and i would appreciate your input.

Some of the ideas I have had for stickies are-

Suggestions - I'll remake this thread but make it open to all topics.

Urban News - For announcements (Comps, Wars, new players, videos, etc)

Urban Challenges - Similar to the replay thread however the first post will be updates with challenges. Say every couple of days with a variety of different themes.

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I'm also having some rather radical ideas. Now bear with me here as its a bit over the top and it mite take a little back and forth to totally understand what I'm on about.

The simplest way I can put it is to break it up.

1. We move all current members to the Urban Secrets sub forum and rename it to something like [Urban Elite].

2. After this is done we could open Urban to any belt with no entry requirements...

3. These new members would affectionately be called 'SubUrbs' and would live in the normal Urban forum under the tutelage of the Urban Elite.

4. Those who show exceptional ability and pass the vote would be able to move up to the Urban Elite.

I think that sets up the basics. We have many talented players in Urban and I think we should share that with new players. We could host SP and MP comps, train um up and pit them against other clans, loads of stuff. I am confident in all of your abilities and i recon all Elites could do these things with ease. Influence doesn't have to be direct, you wont be obligated to give in depth constructive criticism to all members(unless you want to), just being exposed to experienced players should help in theory.

Aside from all that stuff (which would be awesome) forum activity would obviously increase. Also as many of you may have noticed new members in [Urban] have tended to find it difficult to integrate and really feel at home here. This is mainly due to our relaxed attitude towards the forum. I think in this new system we would expect SubUrbs to come and go and anyone being considered into the 'Elite' would, again in theory, already feel as though [Urban] is their home.


Told you it was a little off the wall ^^


THOUGHTS?..



Last edited by Ern; May 10, 2009 at 11:37 PM.
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Good insite ash, to many members could be a problem. I like the suggestion for a 2nd dan minimum although not so much having 2 stages.

How about -

1) Make a thread called "Want to Join Urban?".

2) Everyone that posts there will have to post 3 replays of their choice.

3) If they are good they can be tested by any Elite.
(we can update a list in the first post for those who's SP replays passed and are waiting to be tested)

4) If he passes, he becomes a SubUrb.
(Can be announced in SubUrb News)
Last edited by Ern; May 10, 2009 at 04:00 PM.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
Aye, that's the jist of it. Invite will be rare and only for the best of the SubUrb, winners of SubComps and alike.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
Right, hopefully this will help to the debate... tad drunk xD

I think we should start with aiming for upto 20 Subs. All 2nd Dan or higher.

They post in the "Want to Join Urban?" thread. Everyone that posts there will have to post 3 replays of their choice and give some other details.

If they are good they can be tested by any Elite. We can update a list in the first post for those who pass the replay and are waiting to be tested.

If he/she passes the MP test the Elite who passed him/her will make the voting thread in the SubUrb forum.

SubUrbs will need to be with the clan for a couple months before even being considered for moving to Elite status. Tbh I don't really want to dwell on this as I really cant see it happening very often and i think we all understand that it would entail full testing, voting and all that banter. It will be a very very rare thing and is not really something for concern. We can expect Subs to come and go it wont really be a big deal.


All current members would be elevated to Elite status and move into the Elite forum.

Elites Status -

Passive moderation (Keep the Subs in line, PM Flubbah, Rutz or me only if really needed)

Free to host comps for the Subs

Other things I cant think of right now...

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Cyclone3, What additional ranking system did you have in mind for the Elites?

Majicpooky, If you want someone to skip the SubUrb path and go straight to Elite, we can vote on it at the time.

Ashaltaf, We should stick with only two groups. Subs and Elites.

Leilak, No, there will not be SubUrbs, normal Urbans and Elite Urbans. Just SubUrbs and Urban Elites.

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There is more stuff we need to address but as i said im pretty pissed... so, yeah. thats all i can be assed saying now.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
20 would be the limit. Suggest something lower if you feel it is to high.

There will not be a 'two week period' where the Suburbs then move to Urbans. They will just be Suburbs. Thats it. No point complicating things.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
I was of the mind that Subs would answer to all of us to the same standard. All Elite's would be equal to each other. An Elites word is law, no questioning it. In this sense all Elites are leaders, masters, trainers, hosts, clan mates, friends and all that jazz rolled into one. If there was ever the need for a 'leader' to step in a simple PM to Rutz, Flub or me would suffice I'm sure.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
Well its just an idea atm. Currently college is taking to much time to finalize anything. If we were to introduce something like this it would require a fair bit of management to start. My main exam is on the 3rd of June, so after that we can finalize some stuff.

Feel free to continue the debate.
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Org's :: OldA OoT OrMo
I want to get the ball rolling on this, hopefully we can have it up and running by the end of weekend.


Recruiting

Full path = [ NonMember ----> SubUrbs ----> Urban Elite ]

Restrictions: Player must be over 2nd Dan and be of moderate skill.


[ NonMember ----> SubUrbs ]
Will do the first stage in two ways:

Method1: 'Want to join Urban'

NonMember will post in 'Want to join Urban' with these details -

Belt(2ndDan+):
Preferred Mods:
Skills you can bring to Urban:
Old Clans:
TimeZone:
Other Qualities:
Replays: 3-5

Only elites vote.
4 positive votes to get to Voting Thread.
1 negative vote and your out.


Method 2: Invite

Any elite can also invite a new member and make a Voting Thread to introduce them to the clan at any time.

If they are a well established player a Voting Thread will still be made. A request must be made to a leader before the thread is made and the thread will have clear indications that it is for [Urban Elite].

[ SubUrbs ----> Urban Elite ]

Members will need to be [SubUrbs] for 3 months.
An elite will make a Voting Thread if they feel the Sub is worthy xD



Voting Thread

[ NotMember ----> SubUrbs ----> Urban Elite ]

Thread will show these details:

Belt:
Preferred Mods:
Old Clans:
Skills you can bring to Urban:
TimeZone:
Other Qualities:
Replays: 3-5 Replays


The voting procedure will be the same one we have been using however with this change comes a bit of refining. I'm going to set these 3 requirements.

Testing from at least 4 elites in a variety of mods.
Voting from at least 8 elites [we have 14 members total so I think this is plenty]
Voting will last 7days to allow for testing.

If there is a positive response we can welcome them to the clan as a [SubUrb].
There will be clear indication if moving straight to [Urban Elite].

Their name will also be added to a list in the News thread during this period.

Layout

Urban Secrets [ Name will change ]
  • Rules
  • News Board [ Announcements]
  • Members list [ Pic, Contact Details, mIrc ]
  • Inactive?
  • Replays
  • Request Game
  • War/Comp Suggestions
  • War History
  • Achievements
  • Art




Forum

  • Rules
  • News Board [ Announcements]
  • Members list [ Pic, Contact Details, mIrc ]
  • Inactive?
  • Replays
  • Challenge [ Updated Weekly ]
  • Request Game
  • War Plans
  • War History
  • Achievements
  • Art

I'll be putting some of this into place tomorrow. We wont be opening the doors to new players just yet. We could be doing that on Monday if all goes well, but not sooner i think.

I'm sending you all the password so you can at least get into the Secret Forum.
Last edited by Ern; Jun 5, 2009 at 01:58 PM.
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