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Film: Its degredation and shite.
First watch this bit of epic amazing in motion.
Since we are here, and to keep this thread from being moved to wibbles, how about we disscuss the trite and shity things that clog up so many movies. Personally I have found that maybe one of every 30 movies released into major circulation is good, and the rest are basically this. Anyone else get that feeling?
Since we are here, and to keep this thread from being moved to wibbles, how about we disscuss the trite and shity things that clog up so many movies. Personally I have found that maybe one of every 30 movies released into major circulation is good, and the rest are basically this. Anyone else get that feeling?
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Originally Posted by Onamist
The quality of cinema today is actually better than 10, 20, 30, 40 etc. years ago. The acting is for the most part better, the effects are better, lighting and cinematography is better and most directors know what they are doing. Think back to movies made a long time ago. How many of them are good? Not in the sense of 'were they good back then?' but in the sense of 'are they good now?'. Very few 'classic' movies made back then would be considered good in modern standards. If someone made Die Hard now it be considered a terrible movie, but because it was considered incredible when it was made, people today think it is one of the greatest movies ever.
Good point, but at the same time I dont think you are being exactly fair. Even if a movie is made with "perfect" acting and effects and music etc...it might still lack innovation, which is the thing I think is severely lacking in most films. If you mean that we have gotten closer to perfecting the asthetic aspect of film, I agree, and with movies like Avatar there have obviously been innovations made, but at the same time most of the other movies made and released on a large scale are either cleverly re-packaged ideas, or out and out re-makes of once "great" movies.
Here is a clip from Metropolis, before talkies and the like. Its is the sort of movie you talk about, and while a good deal of it does rely on putting into context with the time it was made, it also kept my interest the entire time, and has a rather complex bit of subversion to its plot.
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Originally Posted by Onamist
Good work with the stereotyping there. You really think indie film makers are coming up with original ideas? Show me an example of a film released in the past 5 years that is an original idea. Not just indie film makers but also successful film makers (indie film makers are as such because they don't make good movies, just letting you know).
What.
no. People come up with great new stuff all the time. Especially independent film makers. Actually the diversity in both plot and presentation has branched out a lot more in later years than it ever did in the old days.
Oh and indie film makers do make good movies, btw. Just because you aren't open minded enough to go and watch them, it doesn't make them bad.
Originally Posted by Mapleleaf
Oh come on.
Seriously, as if every movie about the same thing is 100% identical. There's been so many movies about specific events or stories, yet they differ ever so greatly. I personally have no trouble at all with watching a movie about something that's been done a thousand times, it's still entertaining to me. Seeing as there's usually a big difference in the way the plot is worked out, even though it's a big cliché. In fact, I dare say he cliché makes it just that bit more enjoyable. Some movies just feel like they're outright missing something, the familiar cliché.
tl;dr stop whining about movies, they've still got explosions and hot actresses.
Originally Posted by Gubbin1
pretty much this
don't forget that movies are made for one thing. To entertain you. People don't make movies to be different, they make movies to entertain. If you are entertained, don't whine.
Balls to both of you xD When done right movies can be more than entertainment, they can be social commentary, which imo is the most important aspect of any sort of creative endeavor. Not to downplay movies that are strictly entertainment, everything has a place after all, but it sucks that that is largely what is focused on in main stream cinema.
Most movies follow a specific formula, and not only is not creative, it loses its entertainment value very quickly. Its odd because the only place to get good movies anymore (for the most part) is independent film. Without the motive of profit, they are free to experiment and have plots that actually make a point. If you want hot chicks, why not just watch pr0n? Explosions? get a video game.
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