Hey guys, I have listened to the same music as my friends ever since we were in elementary school. From green day to lostprophets we always entered our own "fads" together. But now they listen to a band called "Nine Inch Nails"....and I HATE IT.

Can anyone explain what the value of this music is? It seems like random dark ominous sound effects with some weird muffly singer. I can tolerate the song Discipline and Closer but that's about it.

What am I missing?

by "I like closer" I mean, I like closer more than..that other stuff.

I don't know, it just seems like songs like discipline and closer have... understandable lyrics, mildly catchy chorus, etc. Also: most of the time while the song is playing... people are speaking.

I think that is my biggest hang up with this group. I feel as if there are huge pauses of lyrics within the song. I am okay with that in a rock song where they throw in a sick guitar solo but instead its just like..a heart beat, or a machine gear cranking around, or something odd and abstract.

I am down for an anti-mainstream band, that's why I like old P!atD rather than their new mainstream stuff but this is a little much.

No I know that. It's just I thought of panic as an abnormal band which I liked with their odd lyrics and catchy rhythms which is why I was distraught when I heard them make songs soo...normal.

But as for NIN: It's really the form. Also: I like Not So Pretty Now. But let's take a song like Eraser. It just sounds like weird...ominous sounds. With almost no lyrics.