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Internet blacklist bill could be passed TODAY
The US entertainment industry has proposed an internet blacklist bill that could effectively DESTROY sites like youtube, twitter, blogger, facebook, and other such sites.

ANYTHING that has copyrighted music or videos on it, could make the person responsible of uploading the content SENT TO JAIL, FINED, or they can have there internet access REVOKED.

That means, your youtube video with music on it, yea, that music your using is probably copyrighted and so is that game footage your showing, looks like your fucked.

This bill has been set up for quick passage TODAY.

PLEASE help join the fight for internet neutrality and freedom, and sign this petition so that the internet as we know will not be tampered with.




Here we may discuss this bill, if it does happen, if not then it is a huge victory for all of us and I will close this thread upon hearing the results.

Here is a copy of the bill - This bill is subject to change at any time, I'll keep you informed on what they do.


[edit] I just got an email from the Demand progress team,

"Some big news:

We told you that grassroots censorship opponents aren't going to get to testify at tomorrow's hearing -- but we made sure your voices were heard anyway:

We just delivered more than 500k petition signatures in opposition to Internet censorship to Congress -- and we did it standing alongside Congressmembers Zoe Lofgren and Darrell Issa, both of whom are strong Blacklist Bill opponents."

This is good news, we will see today how this pans out.

Stay strong!
Last edited by tertywerty; Nov 16, 2011 at 08:06 PM.
I wouldn't put it past the US entertainment industry to effectively do such a thing considering how extremist they can be and how stupid people can be.

We need every person we can get to sign this petition.
New update, More than 700k anti-censorship contacts have been delivered to Congress so far this week, as the Blacklsit Bill gets heard in committee.

Let's hope for the best
This is completely insane!
If this bill passes it will be even worse for the US.
I will devastate your pooder.
Originally Posted by EviLock View Post
I honestly don't think it will go through.
Even if it does, it will cause a HUGE upset in the economy.
Half of YouTube, FaceBook, Twitter and other social websites will die, Internet would be in shambles, and there will be A LOT of law suits.
Trust me, it won't work.

Exactly, but when it comes down to older people who don't know shit about technology, they could end up passing it without even truly understanding the repercussions it could have.

But that's just a crazy idea I had.

I need to focus on the positive more.
I got an update today from the demand progress team, things are looking better!

"Nobody thought it could be done, but it looks like we've turned the tide against the Internet Blacklist Bill. Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi just spoke out against it, and Republican Darrell Issa says it now stands "no chance of passage"

Then I got this email,

"Last week there was a small meeting at Mozilla to discuss SOPA, the Internet Censorship Bill.

It was eerie. The DC groups were practically screaming, "this bill is the worst we've ever seen and we can't stop it" -- while everyone else had barely heard of it. The consensus? We needed to wake people up.

Well, yesterday the Internet woke up. *You* woke the internet up."

"To everyone who wrote their rep, made calls, posted to Twitter and Facebooks -- and especially to everyone who ran the modal and blacked out their logos, you are courageous and you made history yesterday. You just took the first step to combine the web's largest sites, its strongest communities, its staunchest defenders and billions of users into and unbeatable force for stopping censorship.

The scary part? We still might lose. Though growing fast, our coalition still isn't strong enough.

The bill is backed by an unholy alliance of Hollywood, its unions, drug companies, and the Chamber of Commerce. They are pouring money into it, and they've been working on this for years. Yesterday, big players like Tumblr, Mozilla, Reddit, BoingBoing, and even 4chan came out strong on our side. Now it's your turn. We've got to dig in and go viral."

"If you ran "Stop Censorship" or the "Contact Congress" splash on your page yesterday, we humbly ask you to keep it running until this bill is dead, and to find more people who can. We understand if you can't, but the bill is just as bad as it was yesterday -- so we've got to ask."

"Yesterday was amazing. There will be more, we promise.

Homes Wilson

Fight for the Future

AmericanCensorship.org"

We still have a chance we just have to keep pushing.

http://americancensorship.org/index.html#infographic
Last edited by tertywerty; Nov 18, 2011 at 06:44 PM.
For now, just the US, unless there is an accord with another country in this desicion.
There is no why these rules being applied here on my country because this wasnt discussed by our governament or even approved by our governament.

Thats the biggest failture on the capitalism system, its not unified. It's kind chaotic, each country do what each country want, that wasnt really a problem since the "modern internet" appeared, because internet is unified.
All these big organizations as youtube, mozilla, tumblr, if they change their servers to another countries, they may won't have to pay the bill, because wont be more on the us restriction, but they will be able to keep their sites as they are and you will can still access it, unless it be blocked somehow.

In high sea, wich are we can say nobody lands, you can kill someone and nothing will happen, because there isnt a country to apply you a penalty, maybe just ONU may decide what will happen. Some research with stem cells were done in high sea because they were not allowed on some countries and restricted in another countries.

US isnt the only country with internet in the world and is not the internet's owner, with these bills, they will scary all the these companies to the rest of the world.
US will just stop.
Last edited by Carnage; Nov 18, 2011 at 07:17 PM.
Let me get this straight... Is this the situation:
If this bill pass then the majority of sites hit by it will have to transfer their servers to countries where this bill has no effect, to keep their income and evade prosecutions and closures . And by that, some smaller countries where these companies will open their servers will prosper from that by gaining new jobs and money from the server lease.

Then...
Go America, Go! Pass the bill and give us your money and new jobs, and die in your own stupidity! Come to Montenegro, here you can transfer your sites, cheap, and no one will ask you nothing.

And now serious:

What. Are. They. Thinking?! Instead to adapt and go forward, they forming Internet Inquisition of the 21 century, going backward, to the dark ages.
Personally, I think that these kind of bills are prone to die, even when they are backed up by high authority, since they always try to own the Internet, while Internet can't be owned by any side, no matter how many dollar bills you put into it.
Actually, this is more bad for the country that issued this bill.
And, what would be the next step? Sever cables and optic lines with the rest of the world?
This bill would just destroy some large Internet companies from US, and in the time of this recession that is the last thing you want to do.
They are killing the benign cancer, also killing the patient in the process. That's how I see this situation.