Originally Posted by
bRuCiA
Well i agree with most of this, but imo if someone start directly from impro without passing from openers, he will need more time for sure, but then he will become better. Imo it's like to start to learn guitar: you can do it learning tabs of songs on internet, and you will learn fast a lot of songs (but not always know how to make a song mean that u know the guitar); but you can also start to play it randomly and after some months you will recognize how to do every note
nope. it's not.
when you start with openers you can't do anything except openers you memorized.
when you start to improv you don't rely on openers anymore so the game is the same after first 2 turns.
2 situations:
1) player learned some openers from youtube and can't do shit after first 2 turns
for him game is different after first 2 turns. opener is done and he have no idea what to do.
2) person play on improv and checked some replays with comebacks and setups,
game is no different for him after first 2 turns. he continue to do what he want.
thats the difference