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X bone is a stupid idea Microsoft wants to get money off of. All people will do is hack it and make it like a computer. I personally think that it will not sell as there is not very many games available for it. Also don't waste your money on that and get yourself a brand new XPS computer.
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Man Microsoft has been giving me too many problems. The X bone my brother bought is WORSE than a 360. Don't go get your self any windows based items. Go get your self a mac and some some Sony.

Btw I don't think even one jaw dropped. More like a half a jaw you would say.
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Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
If the Xbone is Microsoft's new flagship, they've fucked up bad.

I'd say the same for all 3 of the "major" consoles for this generation:

Wii-U = Gimmick that hasn't taken off & is heading towards 3rd place already
PS4 = Social network oriented device with a patent timebomb attached to it (you're a retard if you think they wont use it once it's sold enough)
Xbox One = Media lump that just happens to play games with the Kinect gimmick bundled

Then OFC we have the niche stuff this gen:

OUYA = Interesting idea, but will be full of pay-to-win crap & cellphone ports. Missed opportunity since devs MUST provide a free version of everything. (the other Android consoles are no better)

Lastly we have the possibility of a winner:

Steambox = I honestly can't see it selling as a hardware bundle, however DIY is planned and if done well will not only give a console PC gamers are happy with, it'll make publishers happy.
No second hand market to fight with, no wrestling with outdated tech in years to come since they're upgradable, and for the consumer there's the huge Steam library waiting for you - with stuff you've already bought.

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Consoles are more about providing a media experience these days, online video streaming, DVD/Bluray playback, all manner of other non-gaming crap.
We already have smart TVs & media centres that do a better job of those things, game consoles should be about the games. Clue's in the name.

Winner will be the one that handles games with none of the other shite. I for one look forward to our Valve tap-headed masters.

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Originally Posted by lordtiger View Post
True, it has social features, but they are entirely optional as far as I can tell. Nobody can force you to press the "Share" button, and even if you do only things you get to share are :

1.Gameplay footage
2.A screenshot

Optional yes, but they're core to the system & it's future. It's a smart move in many ways, it means that they can abuse their userbase as free advertising. Allow me to explain:

ATM if you want to upload footage from a console you need to have capture hardware & depending on what quality you want (and who doesn't want the best?) you'd have to have a fairly meaty PC on the other end of it. Even stand alone capture devices require some form of editing...

Sony are cutting that need, it's basically the biggest free advertising method you could make. People will be uploading images & videos constantly since it's essentially at the push of a button.

Add their wonderful patent on locking a disk to a console, which we all know is coming no matter what BS they've spouted (you don't patent something unless you intend on using it; tick tock tick tock...) and you've got the whole shebang.

People advertise a game for them with video & image, users have to go & buy new copies, Sony rake in a fortune off the BD licensing that's attached to every commercial disk. They'll also be raking it in off the other machines that have Blurays.

Depending on how all the video copyright crap plays out you're looking at a machine that'll become a favourite with LPers etc, along with the every day gamer wanting to show off.

As I said, It's a smart move.

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Originally Posted by dannyrug View Post
I like that the PS3 and PS4 can play blu-ray games, which make the graphics a little better.

Bluray has nothing to do with graphics, it's merely a storage medium.

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Publishers want to see the end of pre-owned games, they get no money from it. Online passes were one way, but the problem being it only works if the game has MP & if the person wants to play MP.

People may whinge about it but there's a good side, it should drop prices back down to 90's level. That on it's own is worth it since most places tend to charge the same for a second hand game as we used to pay for brand new.

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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
Second, they don't want to cross-platform because they want to protect their console from the exposure of the overwhelming amount of pandering they provide it. Microsoft tested cross-platform games (actually, just one) upon the release of the 360 with Shadowrun, a fps that was quickly forgotten about because nobody on console or pc wanted to play it. However, when they beta tested it, they decided to try to prove "console superiority" by recruiting the best console players they could get, "professional" players, and pairing them off against, literally, players they pulled off the street for PC, to "prove" that console players were better.

The result? The random PC players crushed the "pros" every game. Microsoft hushed this up as best they could, but it got leaked to a couple sites several months later. Every since then, Microsoft has not bothered to implement cross-platform play into ANY of their games. They can't sell a product to one market if it gets proven that you will get annihilated regardless of how good you are by somebody who purchases an identical product for a different market. And the FPS genre pretty much dominates the console market right now. Implementation of cross-platform play would pretty much decimate these sales, in theory.

Reminds me of when they turned on the cross platform in Quake 3 between PC & Dreamcast, the difference being that Sega had made a mouse & keyboard for the console & the DC players not only held their own - during the first few months they dominated the PC guys.

Happy days

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Originally Posted by DaNooB23 View Post
I understand that eventually there will be a large shift from physical games to digital-only games in the future, but I'm curious as to how MS (and Sony if they decide to follow the same path) will handle selling their physical console if they are making moves right now to pretty much destroy the markets that are selling them.

They'd only be destroying the current places that sell them. Dedicated game shops are a relatively new thing, turn back the clock & you'd be shopping in newsagents for games & buying the machines from electronic retailers.

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Originally Posted by dannyrug View Post
well if you had 200m, you can buy whatever the heck you want.

A fool and their money are easily parted...
Ever wondered why the rich stay rich? Clue's in the sentence above.

It's not like there's much being released these days worth paying full price, though if $50/70 is considered a full price game I envy you.

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