Originally Posted by Lazors

Perhaps, but I'd rather see it in Steam integration instead.

Originally Posted by Lazors

Would do us all a favour if ctrl + Q (views all commands, ironically) showed a description for each command, or if /fh worked as it should.

Originally Posted by snake

what greenlight we even talk about if to do the simpliest thing as show friends list you need to remember keystrokes?!

everything should be graphical and intuitiveor atleast most

Originally Posted by william4050

Hampa bothered to make a friend list..Put a button there so that people find it. It's not like it will clutter everything.

if you're aiming for a higher playerbase, and to attract a greater playerbase ..you gotta have good presentation.

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you can see the interface is pretty much empty. It would be better if we got rid of the ugly bounties texts as well, and put them in the info box directly. fonts could use a change as well.

Originally Posted by william4050

why bother if it isn't going to implemented anyway.

Originally Posted by sir

Question 1: has it been shown to anyone who's a dev? It's lying in that unofficial org, if it's always been there without being shown to anyone - well, you're great.

before it was put on unofficial org it was at suggestions board, skull seen it all too. i used to pm/querry hamp couple of times with this and still nothing.

Question 2: do you realize how much do "modern games" 8OJ4A was talking about cost? No, really, stupid bullshit games with simple art are like hundreds of thousands of $.

look at any indie game on steam and it's UI for refference. it doesn't cost hundrets of thousands by any means.

Donate them at once to creators and you'll get what you want. If you're ALL AGAINST giving any money to devs but willing to have a good looking game - you're 13.

the problem is: i'v been here too long to be naive. for last 5 years game didn't changed at all. except ray-tracing which is horribly unoptimised.
the whole tendency of game and forums is that it's abandoned.

when the only game dev work on game on occasion, made a habbit to hire volunteer schoolboys to run torishop, forum development and pretty much everything, i do not think that donating a penny will change it. do i need to mention careless decision to bring tb on greenlight in current state?

i would love to donate, but only when i will see that game is not abandoned.

Question 3: most of this is available to be done with ready-to-embed steam stuff. Why would you invent things which already exist?

i do not understand this question. please clarify what do yuo mean exacly.

Originally Posted by sir

Third question was easy to understand. Why should devs do things which won't be needed when Toribash gets Greenlit? To remove them and use Source SDK instead? That's cool.

in all seriousness, how do you see implementation of steamworks?
i'm extremely curious about this and would like you to focus on this question. before i will make another witty remark.

"I would love to donate but blablabla"
Things don't work like that. You donate first, things get done next. To get something done you have to pay devs. They don't work for free, you know. And to have something to pay them users should donate.

to rephrase it it will work like this "i don't do shit now, but when you will pay me i sill surely do what you want"

it doesn't work like that, this is not a kickstarter. job getting done, job gettind paid for. money first? never.