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Originally Posted by Shockey911 View Post
Ive yet to look up real life judo but it seems pretty much like real life aikido. :v

Also, i like your edit to my replay but its hard to come up with that on the spot

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Please, rl aikido is hardly effective in real combat. Judo is another story. Possibly the most effective martial art for street self-defense since you can always close the distance, grab their sleeves and throw/trip them over. And then go for a choke/arm-lock. RL aikido is just fancy movements and demonstrations.

Also, it would be incredibly lucky to come up with that throw on the spot, that's why you should practice it and make it a part of your playstyle. That's what this org is about imo.

And what snake is talking about: If u throw them to the left, you will want to balance on left leg, since that's your center of gravity. If you raise the right leg at the same time it will add to the downward movement of your opponent. That's pretty intuitive imo.
Originally Posted by Lazors View Post
Judo isn't suitable for multiple opponents. What are you gonna do with a lock if someone else punches you while doing it?

Might be off-topic, but what do you believe happens when you throw someone on concrete?
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There is a very simple way to determine which martial arts are applicable in real combat and which aren't.

For example: There is no such thing as competitive aikido or wing tsun. You will never get wrist control on someone standing, so that makes aikido useless in real combat. And WT? That barrage of punches is the most useless thing you can do in a real fight. There is no power in short punches like that. And if WT or aikido is at all useful, then why aren't we seeing people use those techniques in mma and destroying people?

And killing someone with a single WT technique? That sounds very silly. If you wanted to kill someone, judo throw or a wrestling slam on concrete could do it. But not some silly kung-fu. If you see two chinese dudes fight, they won't use Tiger style, they will throw a jab, cross, hook, roundhouse kick, one will drag the other to the ground and land punches from the top.

Effective martial arts imo: Wrestling, Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and different kinds of kickboxing(Thai, American, Dutch, Chinese San-Shou, Karate, TKD etc.)

The best mma fighters train bjj, wrestling and kickboxing...

Nuff said I think... Sorry for OT
Originally Posted by chlebicek View Post
There is a very simple way to determine which martial arts are applicable in real combat and which aren't.

For example: There is no such thing as competitive aikido or wing tsun. You will never get wrist control on someone standing, so that makes aikido useless in real combat. And WT? That barrage of punches is the most useless thing you can do in a real fight. There is no power in short punches like that. And if WT or aikido is at all useful, then why aren't we seeing people use those techniques in mma and destroying people?

And killing someone with a single WT technique? That sounds very silly. If you wanted to kill someone, judo throw or a wrestling slam on concrete could do it. But not some silly kung-fu. If you see two chinese dudes fight, they won't use Tiger style, they will throw a jab, cross, hook, roundhouse kick, one will drag the other to the ground and land punches from the top.

Effective martial arts imo: Wrestling, Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and different kinds of kickboxing(Thai, American, Dutch, Chinese San-Shou, Karate, TKD etc.)

The best mma fighters train bjj, wrestling and kickboxing...

Nuff said I think... Sorry for OT

Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Dothgar View Post
just want to make sure my app has been seen

Maybe you should read first post to find out what we actually require.

I got a nice little idea I think. Since this org is trying to be closer to actual judo, I think the insta dq is a bit silly as well as a tiny dojo. In real life judo, match can be won by scoring an ippon(throwing your opponent to the ground with considerable force). So why not create a floor/mat that can deal dmg and if one player(after throwing his opponent to the ground) scores over let's say 10k, it's an ippon. Otherwise another match is played until someone scores that 10k. That's for a tournament of some sort. We could also have like a high scores thing. This would shift the metagame towards throwing your opponent to the ground as hard as you can, which is identical to judo(minus the ground fighting).

So whatcha guys think?
Last edited by chlebicek; Dec 1, 2013 at 02:19 PM.
Ok, definition of ippon:

When a contestant with control throws the other contestant largely on his back with considerable force and speed.

source: judopedia.com

You seem confused about a lot of things there.

Originally Posted by ZeDreamer View Post
Again, remember that Snake is not wrong all too often. He mentions many times that damage is to be avoided and that goes for the throw as you're supposed to have control all the way through the throw.

He's talking about punching and kicking in aikido. But since we have selfdamage mods, we don't need to worry about that. I think neckfracs caused by a full throw are rated quite highly in this org. That's because you don't need to worry about your tori breaking. So no, we're not going to blindly adapt every single thing from judo.
Last edited by chlebicek; Dec 1, 2013 at 04:09 PM.
I meant you were confused about bushido philosophy. I'm sure you know more than me about judo since you actually trained it. But this is all completely off-topic, so I don't see how you're actually "helping with getting a good thing down".

Let's keep it on topic now.

Anyway I had an interesting idea that might have gotten lost under all this shit-posting. Might wanna delete last couple replies here
Last edited by chlebicek; Dec 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM.
I agree. I haven't been doing to hot in aikido based mods and I think a good bushido lobby this weekend might help me.
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