Some have been dicks lately (No offense)

I wanna say these:

If I were any of those people, I would do everything it takes just to satisfy the community.

They have all the power. With great power comes great ________ (I know you know it)

You see, they are powerful BUT we should not be afraid of them, they must be afraid of us.

Anyone agree?

Most staff members are competent most of the time.
Administration is not really efficient, mostly because hampa does not care what goes on and some of the most prestigious positions are filled with inactive people who don't do anything interesting besides mocking people on IRC and giving occasional input when asked to.
Community is run by itself and it could be worse. It could be a lot better, but that would require work. No one likes to work for free and I doubt anyone will be paid to moderate the community anytime soon.

You seem to forget that of the COPIOUS amount of people who work hard on Toribash: (GMs, smods, local mods, russian local mods, market squad members, clan council, clan mods, admins, ninjas, developers, content creators, mod makers, minibash developers, marketeers, torinews, etc. etc. etc.), less than 10%, probably closer to like 3% of the people who spend hours selflessly on Toribash are actually compensated for their thoughts, time, and effort.

More now than ever I'm more than happy with who's holding what positions of staff. You have great people with good personalities like ishi and Erth in the admin seats, GMs who actually like to come up with interesting events, great artists in item forgers making some really cool and exciting stuff that I can't wait for them to unveil to the public, SUPER experienced people sitting on the Msquad staff, and Smods who care way more about doing their job than having an ego and sipping on scotch in what use to be a gentlemen's club. For the first time in a LONG time- the people with the most power still actively log in and play with regular guys in regular servers. I'm pretty convinced there have been admins/smods in the past who legit didn't even have Toribash installed.

We like "fresh blood" coming in wanting to "change the world". When we see it in people who we think are actually mature and responsible, usually we give them a chance. Now more than ever we've been shifting staff around rather than recycling them because the philosophy as become "people will do a better job at a position they'll have more fun holding".

A LOT of people want a tilde next to their name.

Very few people once they get it stick around for 3 months + staying active at their job.

^ I laughed pretty hard at that


Anyways, we are here to keep order and make sure everyone is following the rules and not being complete assholes to one another.
We try to not bring people that would abuse the power on board for that very reason, however it has happened in the past with people abusing the power when they get the job.
When you say that "Some are dicks" that doesn't really say much when you look at the massive list of staff members, even the ones on the past and present list.
To be honest I don't know why you would even post this if you didn't want to get on our bad sides, because calling us dicks is not a very nice thing to do. Granted some people have earned a name for themselves in the community such as Siku, but that doesn't mean that he's always a dick. Try not to judge the wonderful family of staff as a whole, if you don't like one member, so be it, but keep it to yourself.

Prostitution.

Contempt.

Perspective:

Obviously not perfectly accurate and doesn't represent everyone, but you could solve that problem if you draw another circle called "terrible people" and then put this diagram inside it.

Some people just want to play the game and have fun. This is completely reasonable and appreciated. Instead of coveting they admire. They don't try to humiliate people if they have a problem with them. You don't notice them because they don't draw attention to themselves. Some of them have more than what they want.

Then you have people that take it seriously. They enjoy the competition. They know how to get what they want. Some of them want more than they have, but they don't want everything for free because it wouldn't be a challenge. Cheating doesn't satisfy them.

Some people want to go as far as they can even if it means they have to put time and effort into it. This has become more and more rare, despite how much easier it has become to obtain wealth.

Some people will settle for less. They'd like the stuff but not so much that they'd spend money on it or cheat for it.

Last of all you have a minority that want to get as much as they can with the least amount of effort. They want to push the limits. If the highest they can go is the top of a cliff, they go there anyway. If they fall off, they blame the cliff for being steep and then blame the moderators for being at the bottom of it. They have no patience or discipline. Time and effort is too much to ask for. The only time they consider other people is when they're looking for a scapegoat. They think things are unfair if they're not easy. If this is you then you probably can't tell the difference between a rule and a moderator, or you can tell the difference but despise them equally anyway.

What tends to be the case is you'll get a moderator doing work and helping people, but none of it is seen because moderators don't brag about all the time and effort they put into the community. Then on the odd occasion someone sees a moderator screw up, but instead of telling the moderator about the problem, they tell the whole world and try to humiliate the moderator in ways that are seldom funny.

Sure moderators make mistakes, but you don't need to be afraid of that because we try to fix them. Though after reading everything you posted, I can't help but get the impression that you're just another guy who has the wrong attitude. More interested in fear than respect. The sort of mindset where you think you won't fall off a cliff because the cliff is afraid of you.

Most people don't even bother to read the rules and it's not actually a problem when people have common sense. Though for the people that do need rules and don't like rules, they seem to be bad at identifying problems, even if there is something that could be improved whether it's moderators or rules.

Everything slightly interesting has been said.
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