Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
50 str lets you 1hand the dgs. It has good raw base damage, and IMO it's a fun weapon to rush. At only 50 str it probably has more damage than others too (but not good scaling and only 5 upgrades available).
Tanking everything is pretty funny, I found it really hilarious when you go fight whatever boss and you just hold block and they can't do anything. I always preferred heaviest highest damage weapon and no armour, because it's more challenging and rewards timing and skill, which I find more interesting than say, full defensive or fast dex weapons. Zwei has better animation the bkgs or dgs so if you want something easier you can go that (or abandon str entirely and go ez mode dext? :P).
And yeah I'm sure you know how to already, but parry and bs let you kill stuff a lot faster. For a humanoid enemy (except non-final bosses) you can just walk up to them and parry riposte for instagib. It also has invulnerable frames, so you can go all "assassin's creed" and parry riposte or roll bs one at a time, even if you are fighting 20 enemies.
A good way to parry, if you can't be bothered memorizing timings, is to just parry when the enemy's frontswing animation is finished, you can parry any time up until the backswing begins - obviously unless you animation cancel that means you can't parry /after/ you are hit.
Been trying to parry but can't quite seem to clinch it, there's like a 50/50 chance I get it.
Just need to practice more, but yeah, gonna need to do that more.
As for the tanking everything is funny, it's the most fun I've had on a char.
I made a dex, a mage and tank, got up to undead parish, decided which one I prefered and carried on with that one, tank pretty much hands down.
I strongly suspect as I get into the finer points, the other builds will be just as fun, but for now, running around slamming everything into the floor while my friend behind me, who is a mage, sits there shouting "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KILL RICARD IN 1"
Originally Posted by snake
chaos rapier +5 in right hand
lightning rapier +5 in left hand
no bs just parry. running sl3 pvp and pve
Will probably try a duel wieldy thing after this. I dunno, it looks like it could be a lot of fun
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Yeah, I only don't like erthtkv2 because of the mod's name. Make it "tkv2," and the mod will instantly become more popular. This is a valid reason as the name of the mod is still an important feature that no one seems to have yet discussed.
Yeah, I only don't like erthtkv2 because of the mod's name. Make it "tkv2," and the mod will instantly become more popular. This is a valid reason as the name of the mod is still an important feature that no one seems to have yet discussed.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Yup, I think that is the best build for anyone who can't be bothered with timings :P
Thrusting swords don't need knowledge of dead angles, don't need good timings, don't need patients or to worry about your backswing or frontswing timings. Fast attack weapons are excellent
A lot of the time it's not even necessary to parry, since you can counterattack and still receive some damage buff and if it's an enemy with low poise or a slow attack you can still dodge.
A good thing to do is to use dwgr with rapiers, the game will be so easy it's hilarious!
But be careful in pvp because if the lag swings out of your favor you can easily be killed. Be very careful of the instability of the servers when you are running a cheese strat!
exactly. since you have no shield you must rely on dodge or parry and learn timings in pvp
did i mentioned zero poise?
ahd and btw, zero poise no shield builds aren't consideres as cheese as far as i know, unless it's mage
Last edited by snake; Mar 23, 2014 at 01:06 PM.
