Originally Posted by BoingBoing
I see your point, but nobody is forcing nobody.
Didn't you just say you want to force motherhood onto pregnant women?
Also, ignore people who try to pull all discussions on US territory, or alternatively propose whatever setting are present in your countries so they'll feel how it's like to be bombarded by US bullshit nonstop.
How are you?
If a man, or woman for that matter, kills a woman, and her baby dies, he or she can be charged with DOUBLE homicide, then a pregnant mom can go get her baby ripped out of her body, and torn to pieces on a table and its legal. This isnt right. Getting a child, who has a beating heart, ripped out of you in pieces is legal, but when this woman is killed and her baby dies too, the murderer is charged with double homicide. This shows how corrupt our world is
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and ruadhan, No baby is "unwanted". ask any mother who aborted her child. They clearly wanted the child. You may say, well what if the woman was raped? this will obviously be hard for the mother. But the baby is still in her and a part of her, and its her responnsibility to take care of it. If your mother was raped, and had you, would you want her to have an abortion? i didnt think so. Just remember to think of the baby. It is outright selfish to kill an innocent child because "you dont want it" what if your parents didnt want you?
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and ruadhan, No baby is "unwanted". ask any mother who aborted her child. They clearly wanted the child. You may say, well what if the woman was raped? this will obviously be hard for the mother. But the baby is still in her and a part of her, and its her responnsibility to take care of it. If your mother was raped, and had you, would you want her to have an abortion? i didnt think so. Just remember to think of the baby. It is outright selfish to kill an innocent child because "you dont want it" what if your parents didnt want you?
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I don't think a baby will remember or even care for that purpose, if it dies. Its brain isn't even remotely developed enough. I do not believe abortion is an entirely good thing either. I have this nasty picture in my mind of a women getting pregnant over and over... ...ok, that was weird.
Do I think abortion should be legal? Restricted. Not illegal, but not entirely legal. I am not sure exactly what would need to take place for this to work, but I honestly don't feel comfortable with the way things are now. ;D just a thought
Do I think abortion should be legal? Restricted. Not illegal, but not entirely legal. I am not sure exactly what would need to take place for this to work, but I honestly don't feel comfortable with the way things are now. ;D just a thought
Chickster: I literally don't know why I did it.
I am going to a catholic school and we believe that abortions should be illegal. I believed this before i went to a catholic school.
A person is more likely to die in a mother's womb than anywhere. Why would you want to take a person's life away. Just think about if your mother had an abortion, you would not be here right now.
I say the people who are pro-abortion are just cruel. I bet they would not think it is so funny if it happened to them. Hell they would not be able to think at all.
A person is more likely to die in a mother's womb than anywhere. Why would you want to take a person's life away. Just think about if your mother had an abortion, you would not be here right now.
I say the people who are pro-abortion are just cruel. I bet they would not think it is so funny if it happened to them. Hell they would not be able to think at all.
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[QUOTE=Oracle;7242133]K you're catholic. Irrelevant informaton, but whatever it's out there.
Other than that, you've said nothing but obvious misconceptions and fallacies. The vast majority of pregnancies go through to the end, and the child is born safely. You're more likely to be killed outside of the womb by a significant margin.
Plus, it doesn't matter if somebody could have been aborted. This is rather insulting to assume that somebody can't make the basic leap of logic that being aborted means somebody won't be born. Pro-abortion proponents reach their beliefs knowing full well that they wouldn't be here if they were aborted.
And finally, you assume we must be cruel for supporting abortions? That abortions are funny for us? This shit is serious fucking business. I could argue that forcing a person to bear a child against their will is cruelty. It's an uncomfortable biological process that ends with bowel-shattering agony and a risk of death to boot. How is forcing somebody to go through this process against their will somehow the morally right decision? It's the overriding of a living person's rights for the sake of an entity that isn't even alive yet. How is this in any way logical or fair, let alone morally right? And then either forcing the mother to raise this unwanted child, or place it up for adoption, where it will likely spend the entirety of it's childhood in orphanages or foster homes, with a statisitically significant chance of it being born and stuck in poverty for the entirety of it's life. Is THAT supposed to be the exemplar of compassion for life? Is THAT supposed to be the humane choice? If so, then our definitions of cruel are miles apart.[/QUOTE
Yep, dont want the child to live in poverty or be up for adoption so you might as well just kill it. Right?
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The Roe vs. Wade case was a fake. She came out publicly to a pro life rally in w
Washington DC, she even brought her boy out.
Other than that, you've said nothing but obvious misconceptions and fallacies. The vast majority of pregnancies go through to the end, and the child is born safely. You're more likely to be killed outside of the womb by a significant margin.
Plus, it doesn't matter if somebody could have been aborted. This is rather insulting to assume that somebody can't make the basic leap of logic that being aborted means somebody won't be born. Pro-abortion proponents reach their beliefs knowing full well that they wouldn't be here if they were aborted.
And finally, you assume we must be cruel for supporting abortions? That abortions are funny for us? This shit is serious fucking business. I could argue that forcing a person to bear a child against their will is cruelty. It's an uncomfortable biological process that ends with bowel-shattering agony and a risk of death to boot. How is forcing somebody to go through this process against their will somehow the morally right decision? It's the overriding of a living person's rights for the sake of an entity that isn't even alive yet. How is this in any way logical or fair, let alone morally right? And then either forcing the mother to raise this unwanted child, or place it up for adoption, where it will likely spend the entirety of it's childhood in orphanages or foster homes, with a statisitically significant chance of it being born and stuck in poverty for the entirety of it's life. Is THAT supposed to be the exemplar of compassion for life? Is THAT supposed to be the humane choice? If so, then our definitions of cruel are miles apart.[/QUOTE
Yep, dont want the child to live in poverty or be up for adoption so you might as well just kill it. Right?
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Originally Posted by Oracle
Because Link is approaching an important facet of the debate, the Americans, do any of you actually know what Roe vs. Wade set as precedent? Because it was restricted legalization that came from it. Any abortion in the first trimester is legal. Any abortion in the second trimester is up to regulation by the state. Abortions in the second trimester and onwards are always legal if the life of the mother is in jeopardy. Third trimester is only legal in cases of rape, incest, and the previously mentioned circumstance.
So let's keep this in mind if we talk about the current state of legalization in the U.S. as it's better if everybody knew this ahead of time. Abortion is legal, but there are restrictions in place. It is not free reign to abort whenever you want, it's not virtually impossible (in most of the states (but all precedent in these states point towards their restrictions as unconstitutional because they override federal law (they just need to go through the legislative process to affirm it))) to get one. It's in a rather reasonable position right now. So let's avoid the false statements on current law now, shall we?
The Roe vs. Wade case was a fake. She came out publicly to a pro life rally in w
Washington DC, she even brought her boy out.
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