Why don't you compile a list of women rights and then we can go somewhere? If you believe they do not have any, compile a list of wrong towards women from the Quran or Sunnah. Then I'll try to address them.

You should also know that women rights is not always how it's potrayed in pakistan, iran and similiar countries. You know there are extremists out there. I've met hundreds or even thousand+ muslim women in my life and none of them are abused. They are all happy.


Originally Posted by Moonshake

Qur'an (4:3) - "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four"

You forgot to finish off the sentence, let me help you:
two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice. (3)

Qur'an (4:11) - "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"

You forgot to finish the verse again:

Allah chargeth you concerning (the provision for) your children: to the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half. And to of his parents a sixth of the inheritance, if he have a son; and if he have no son and his parents are his heirs, then to his mother appertaineth the third; and if he have brethren, then to his mother appertaineth the sixth, after any legacy he may have bequeathed, or debt (hath been paid). Your parents or your children: Ye know not which of them is nearer unto you in usefulness. It is an injunction from Allah. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.

(11)Qur'an (2:22 - "And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them"

Again, I shall help you with quoting the whole verse.

Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart, three (monthly) courses. And it is not lawful for them that they should conceal that which Allah hath created in their wombs if they are believers in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands would do better to take them back in that case if they desire a reconciliation. And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them. Allah is Mighty, Wise. (22

I am physically tired of doing all this research and stuff not knowing if you'll end up just insulting and twisting my words like hyde does. So I'll link you videos of explanations from famous scholars.



To the first verse:


To the second verse:
I could not find short videos of that verse(they're all like 30 minutes+)
The verses are dealing with inheritance, men inherit double of what the female gets from the parents when they pass, because it's men's responsibility to look after and spend their sisters. I don't have too much knowledge on inheritance.

To the third verse:
Couldn't find a short video.
These verse are talking about rights in divorce, when the women and pregnant etc etc. I don't have much knowledge on divorce rights.

If you'd like to further exchange opinions, please feel free to PM me.


Hyde.

You are not worth replying to, you are shielded by a wall of arrogance and only throw back insults.

Men in Islam are actually obliged to have beards lol

Thanks for the vid edit btw

Yusuf Estes is one of the most famous scholars today, who used to be a christian preacher. He has a cool story.

No education for women. No voting for women. Women can't ride bikes. Women can't show their faces. Women can't live their lives and get the same opportunities that men can. Women are also stoned heaps more than men and a lot of the time it's because of a dispute in which they're killed for 'shaming' their families, and the law seems A-OK with it.

You are bonkers mate, if you think that under Islam, women have any resemblence of equal rights.

You missed out the bolded part.

“[20:114] … And say: My Lord increase me in knowledge.”

Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 74: “Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim.”

Please tell me where Islam says women cannot recieve education?

Who are these women who can't vote? Where does Islam say women can't vote?

Women can't ride bikes? Yes, only in Saudi Arabia. Where does Islam say women can't ride bikes?

Women can't show their faces? Yes, and there is benefit behind it. If you want to know more about that, PM.

Women can't get their lives? Yes, in regions like ISIS, pakistan etc. Where the extremists lurk.

Women are stoned? Yes, In Pakistan. Regional problem.

Please provide evidence next time.

I actually want to describe about all of that, but I dont feel like having a long discussion bout this.

So, I'm going to make it quick.
If there are no educations for women, how the hell there are several islam pilots (ofc women) that even categorized as an expert pilot?

Also, in Islam, women faces are considered as beautiful as a jewelry, so they have to keep their face so that the men are not tempted by them, but they can show their face to their husband and their child.

For more further about all of it, you can search on google
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Oh, looks like xlr84life has described it all

Your response to all of my points is 'Yes'. I'm glad we can agree that women have less rights under Islam. It was a silly and obvious point to argue about for so long.

Heh, atleast, read the next statement, man.
There is a reason behind that Yes

The reasons behind them all, to some degree, is Islam.

no proof no talk

You're telling me that you don't see any evidence that shows that women dont have equal rights under Islam? Okeydoke, mate.