Originally Posted by Valterain1

If you are born white, and you hate being white. Then you are racially bias. To accept people who are racially bias is an absolutely ridiculous concept.

Originally Posted by Ele

Would you call people who are born male, and hate being male sexually bias?

Originally Posted by Valterain1

We are not hear to discuss trans gender. That is a different debate entirely.

Originally Posted by Oracle

You do realize your gender is dependent on your parents as well, right? Assuming a conventional conception, you have a 50/50 chance based on your father's sperm containing either an x or y chromosome. Now let's assume that "you" as a philosophical entity rather than a physical entity (basically, you as a conscience, not the physical you) could have been born to any set of parents, but you were born to x race of parents. Would it be fair to say that the odds of your gender are any less of a mistake than the odds of your parents' race? Of course not, there is no mistake in any of this, it's all just random chance.

And would it be fair to complain about having rolled unfavorably? Of course it would be, the result was not wanted and you have no way to change the result and through no choice of your own did it come about. It is entirely unfair for anybody to be born into any circumstance that they did not want, and it would be unreasonable to deny them from changing their circumstances, particularly if it does not effect others negatively.

Originally Posted by Valterain1

Life is not about getting what you want at all. What you are born as is what you are born as. If you go so out of your way to change the way you were born just because a few people who are entirely unimportant to you dislike what you are, then you shouldn't be allowed to live in the real world.

Originally Posted by raaage

I will never accept people's delusions about there race, gender or whatever it's going to be next.
Inb4 "I'm a furry trapped in a man's body, I have the right to have sex with cats n shit".

Originally Posted by Oracle

You do realize your gender is dependent on your parents as well, right? Assuming a conventional conception, you have a 50/50 chance based on your father's sperm containing either an x or y chromosome. Now let's assume that "you" as a philosophical entity rather than a physical entity (basically, you as a conscience, not the physical you) could have been born to any set of parents, but you were born to x race of parents. Would it be fair to say that the odds of your gender are any less of a mistake than the odds of your parents' race? Of course not, there is no mistake in any of this, it's all just random chance.

And would it be fair to complain about having rolled unfavorably? Of course it would be, the result was not wanted and you have no way to change the result and through no choice of your own did it come about. It is entirely unfair for anybody to be born into any circumstance that they did not want, and it would be unreasonable to deny them from changing their circumstances, particularly if it does not effect others negatively.

Reparative therapy is the notion that homosexuality and transgenderism can, and should, be "cured." Many reparative therapy "camps" are maintained where afflicted children may be sent by their parents (though some adults also send themselves to these boot camps) to be "cured" of homosexuality: however, these re-education facilities amount to little more than non-fatal (at least not intentionally fatal) concentration camps. Many camps are deliberately located outside United States territory in order to avoid US jurisdiction and, ostensibly, circumvent US laws.

Some critics are concerned that reparative therapy puts its "patients" at risk for suicide.

In 2015, Barack Obama came out against the practice, calling for its end in the United States.

Transgender reparative therapy is occasionally practiced on children who display cross-gender behaviors, often by misguided professional psychiatrists who seek to, for example, get young boys to "drop the Barbie." Such efforts to force young children into rigid gender roles are eerily similar to the practices of gay "conversion therapy."

Originally Posted by Ele

Society is, and has been, becoming more tolerant. We're at a stage where we're accepting of people who disagree with their biological sex, and decide to change it (Bruce Jennar). Do you think we will ever be at a stage where we're accepting of people who disagree with their biological race?