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Canceling bets.
This is a thread concerning the ban of someone canceling bets that were around 1%. People getting banned for enforcing the 10% rule. To my knowledge, laithoon got banned for enforcing the 10% rule. I don't see how that was a problem, when he enforced a server rule, to benefit the players so tc does not sink, is ban worthy. If i bet 1million tc, and i get a 1k counter, I would want the host to cancel the bets. Seeing as you can only get 5x what you bet, you would then sink approximately 995000 tc. I don't think that banning the person who preserves this tc from simple falling into the void should be a bannable offense. My point here, allow host to enforce the 10% rule in order to prevent the sink of tc. It's utter bullshit to ban someone for trying to save TC. It's our servers, let us run it the way we want to, without the loss of TC.

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The rules are the rules.
The admins are obviously enforcing them for a reason, so get over it.
It is the way it is, and if you don't like it, stop playing in bet servers.
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It's a private server my god, if the host wants to make a 10% rule, cancel bets, fukes he should be allowed to. If people don't want to be there. No one is stopping them from leaving. If the staff want to end the cancel bets, fukes etc. then make a official betting server with rules you want.
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Originally Posted by The7thVoid View Post
It's a private server my god, if the host wants to make a 10% rule, cancel bets, fukes he should be allowed to. If people don't want to be there. No one is stopping them from leaving. If the staff want to end the cancel bets, fukes etc. then make a official betting server with rules you want.

Its a private server so the op can cheat some people out of tc? rules cant be removed from private servers altogether

The fact is the command was abused (it was abused even without counting the 10% etc rules) by people wanting to conserve their tc when they were losing a bet, this will make it much easier to stop people abusing it
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Originally Posted by SmallBowl View Post
Its a private server so the op can cheat some people out of tc? rules cant be removed from private servers altogether

The fact is the command was abused (it was abused even without counting the 10% etc rules) by people wanting to conserve their tc when they were losing a bet, this will make it much easier to stop people abusing it

I can understand that

Originally Posted by Scorpio View Post
that's funny argument you've got there, should we stop handling reports coming from those rooms too?

But don't you guys say bet at your own risk?
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Originally Posted by SmallBowl View Post
There COULD be an argument for when tc is going to be sunk by a bet, the tc that would be sunk goes back to the original better.

Now we are talking. This is the best god damn idea i have seen in a long time. I would love to see this happen.
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Originally Posted by SmallBowl View Post
Its a private server so the op can cheat some people out of tc? rules cant be removed from private servers altogether

The fact is the command was abused (it was abused even without counting the 10% etc rules) by people wanting to conserve their tc when they were losing a bet, this will make it much easier to stop people abusing it

Small we are not cheating people out of tc. If an op cancelsbets that are not 10% or whatever rule there was, then you ban them. But saving tc from sinking in our own servers, is a way not to get completely bitched at by the people in your server.

A way to fix the abuse of host' canceling bets to preserve their tc is require screens of the host' bet, ban the host, and then take the tc and sink it.
Last edited by Fox; Jun 28, 2015 at 02:09 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump

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Originally Posted by Parrot
Small we are not cheating people out of tc. If an op cancelsbets that are not 10% or whatever rule there was, then you ban them. But saving tc from sinking in our own servers, is a way not to get completely bitched at by the people in your server.

A player had just won a bet effectively multiplying what they bet by 5, then you cacelbets so they dont get any money from the risk. Theyve had their earnings unfairly taken off them

As for being bitched at by people in your server, trust me Ive experienced that B^) it doesnt mean you should go with the crowd and negate people's earnings
Last edited by SmallBowl; Jun 28, 2015 at 09:35 AM.
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Ok. You can either supply someone 5k, assuming they are the only counter with a 1k bet, and lets just say sink 95k. OR, you can give everyone's TC back, and allow them to bet again. You would be saving more TC then you are negating.

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Originally Posted by Parrot View Post
Ok. You can either supply someone 5k, assuming they are the only counter with a 1k bet, and lets just say sink 95k. OR, you can give everyone's TC back, and allow them to bet again. You would be saving more TC then you are negating.

So youre still wanting to just take away someones TC at the benefit of another person? Just so that other person can bet again? The person who bet 1k is effectively scammed out of 4k. It doesnt matter how much tc you save for the person who bet 100k youve still scammed the other person out of their money
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I forsee scams where people dont cancel despite there being no counters whatsoever
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Yes to help "stabilize" the economy, Sinking should be a natural thing- not a constant problem- but something that happens to those who bet high every now and again. I have never experienced the troubles of Sinking tc because I was smart enough to not bet ridiculously high in a server that hasn't mantained that many high bets. But I have seen it happen and do you know who it happens to most of the time: that one person who has hundreds and millions to throw away b3cause they can just buy tc. Since they buy tc and lose/spread it everyone is happy. There is no reason to have to cancel bets because your scared of losing every dime you have. My solution (which has most likely been said befores) is:

That the first bet sets the bar for the rest.

When you are the first bet and for example you bet 5k. kthe min bet allowed rises to 5k and all after bets must be at or over whatever the first bets amount was: 5k anything after is free game. Meaning a bet like 5kv100k is possible. And to help with no counter situations the game will auto cancel IF there are NO other bets besides the first one put in when the set betframes arrives.

This is the only solution I see that solves all the problems at once. This means that if you want to bet low you have to do it quickly in order to set the bar for the other bets. This guarantees counters of the same amount of higher and eliminates human error and mistakes by having the game know when to cancel. Its either this or stay the way we are now.
Last edited by Fates; Jul 3, 2015 at 06:34 PM.
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