Greykido and abd are very different tbf. A lot more difference between them than lenshu/rkmma

Rkmma/lenshu have different gravity, turnframes, dojo, thresholds playstyles etc... the only difference inbetween greykido and abd is the environment/dojo, no ? One has a small ring and black plates, the other one has a large ring which are approximatively the same size, (ho and +3 turns with 50tf in ABD so people can tripod longer). How is that more differences ?

Anyway, don't see the point arguing, it's not like mods/staff would take that statement seriously

Wrong.

The differences between RK and Lenshu are massive, ofcourse you along with most people posting in this thread don't know shit about most mods as you mainly focus in the ones you like e.g. you know TK, Deprav knows Wushu.

And wushu with a box is not wushu.

Your idea of someone "knowing" a mod is that they are an absolute top tier player in that mod. For example how can you say I dont know lenshu when in CL I went approximately 50/50 in lenshu against some top tier clans. Sure Im not the absolute top tier at it, but to say I dont know the mod because im not top10 is pretty dumb. I can easily argue that RKMMA/lenshu are pretty much alike. The gravity and TF are a bit different but the gameplay style is still pretty much the same. Feet first lunging. In greykido/ABD the focus is quite different, most greykido games end in out of the ring dq and in abd inside the ring. That shapes the gameplay to something very different.You are just so god damn cocky that you don't think people other than yourself can give proper input to issues.

You attempting to explain how the mods are the same just proves that you have no knowledge of the mods.

But i am in the camp that we can have both greykido and abd and even aikido. Same with RK and Lenshu. Why not have both?

Im not even gonna try to talk with you. You dont use arguments, you just dismiss others instantly. You are so god damn proud that there is no way that you will listen to anyone except yourself. Have fun in your echo chamber.

Im not saying that there cant be both. That was not what I was saying at any point. You just seem to have some comprehension issues. I was only responding to the argument that greykido and ABD are almost identical. I was not arguing against having them all.

I asked why can't we have both? Is there a problem with both TK and ErthTK. Seems logical to me and everyone would be happy. Instead of just cheap insults why not respond to the question.

RK and Lenshu play out so differently because of the dojo size and gravity, RK-MMA is a much more aggressive mod where as lenshu can be much slower paced and defensive.

In RK-MMA often there is not time to set up for comebacks using the crab / turtle styles. RK-MMA is a much harder mod in my opinion as little mistakes are often punnished. Example would be if you "choke" in lenshu then you often have time to recover without to much danger. But if you choke in RK you will frequently end up getting pushed outside the dojo.


I never even said this at all or anything close to that. I know the mods are very different so thats why having both is great.

Ok so this is how this thread looks: Hax wanted to get a mod list for matchmaking system, snake rushed in and started suggesting his own mods (because everything made by him is obviously better), everyone ended up arguing if greykido is similar to abd.


I seriously don't know why none of you suggested a variation of valetudo as aikido/greykido replacement if you all complain about shovels there. Either use one of them or slightly modify greykido's engagedistance. Don't make your own completely new mods with some weird settings that make fights messed up (like erthtkv2 does with its random dms thanks to selfdamage that always resulted in that) - because they are only fun for you.

Even though I agree that regular wushu running / aikido shoveling are a problem when speaking of "competitive" play, all the other mods you have here can be abused aswell.
In rkmma you get low and lie on the ground up to the moment when your opponent reaches you - then you kick the shit out of him and he flies away. Lenshu3ng is abused the same way lenshu3 was - you kick in the first frames and then lie on the ground, sometimes kicking the opponent when he reaches you. Erthtk is a mess, I'm not even going to speak about it - even Erth says it's bad which should mean something to you. Aikidobd is one of the most popular mods - yet if you find someone who can lift as good as Leyz did he'll wreck anyone with any fighting style. Never played that snake's variation of spiritwresling (most probably because it's bad as it has 3.5k games played since 2012 - AND because swfixed was created later and got noticeably more popular) but swfixed looked like the only mod that is more or less "competitive" as you define it - but that's probably because nobody plays spiritwresling. Seriously, the original mod and all its modifications have only ~160k games played combined.


If you want to get a system that players would want to use - please come up with good mods people play and suggest easy ways to fix them if needed rather than creating your crazy-ass fl0w-approved mods that only snake will play.


Also why no judofrac in the list - or some fl0w_esport_judo variation?


EDIT:
Also this is hilarious. A mod designed to be played as "wait until your opponent makes a mistake" is now considered to be agressive.

go through the whole thread, find and names of mods i suggested, then check what are made by me.

in whole thread i suggested spiritwrestlingfix.tbm, which is indeed made by me, rest was discussion


before you bother to reply, get your shit straight and don't waste my time reading it.