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Americas Inability to stay out of other countries problems.
A few people brought this topic up to me. In my eyes and in many others this is a serious problem. I want to know what people from other countries feel about how America always likes to stick itself directly in between international skirmishes and fights. Especially if your country is/was effected by Americas intervention when it was not asked for. I really believe the only time we ever actually needed to step into something was when the Japanese at Pearl harbor. 911 is slightly different because it was a group that did the attacking instead of a whole country but America decided to just pretty much declar war on Iraq and afghanistan as a whole. I don't blame them for the retaliation but mainly For how they went about it was reckless and caused major problems for us now. For most of my entire life this country has been at war with others or "assisting" in war.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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They do not interfere in geopolitical conflicts because of selfless humanist reasons tho. They do because it allows them to open geographical doors toward sensible areas full of ressources (oil mainly), or because it allows them to place new rulers in the countries they "helped", rulers that will ensure the interests of the US are well served.
(That's what Europe (mainly France and England) has been doing with black Africa for decades, centuries if you count the colonial era, except now it's covered with self-righteous pretexts.)
War is good for the economy of the US. They produce weapons, they sell weapons, they control ressources, they establish themselves for long term, and they can use the whole patriotic US army stuff for political agenda during campaigns and shiet. It's some sad badshit stuff for every single person physically involved in those wars, soldiers or civilians, but it's a bottomless gold mine for a few people and it createsslaves jobs.
So here we are now, killing people and being killed for the profit of a few already indecently rich people who have no fuck to give about our future.
(That's what Europe (mainly France and England) has been doing with black Africa for decades, centuries if you count the colonial era, except now it's covered with self-righteous pretexts.)
War is good for the economy of the US. They produce weapons, they sell weapons, they control ressources, they establish themselves for long term, and they can use the whole patriotic US army stuff for political agenda during campaigns and shiet. It's some sad badshit stuff for every single person physically involved in those wars, soldiers or civilians, but it's a bottomless gold mine for a few people and it creates
So here we are now, killing people and being killed for the profit of a few already indecently rich people who have no fuck to give about our future.
Last edited by deprav; Sep 11, 2015 at 11:50 PM.
Those people should feel lucky a super power has come from the land of opportunity to save them from the constant life in the dark ages.
Also, how are we so sure that these poorer countries can solve their own problems without widely effecting that small part of the world. Some times it takes a bigger dude with bigger weapons to stop the 2 little dudes from fighting.
What if the states just stopped caring and closed off borders no one can get in and when you get out you can't come back. And just kept to themselves. I think America does a lot of good but is only remembered for the shit they do, which is always the case. Do a bunch of good acts then one bad act then watch your rep flush down the toilet.
And a lot of these countries are small and actually quite broken, in short they won't see the future without intervention of some sort.
Also, how are we so sure that these poorer countries can solve their own problems without widely effecting that small part of the world. Some times it takes a bigger dude with bigger weapons to stop the 2 little dudes from fighting.
What if the states just stopped caring and closed off borders no one can get in and when you get out you can't come back. And just kept to themselves. I think America does a lot of good but is only remembered for the shit they do, which is always the case. Do a bunch of good acts then one bad act then watch your rep flush down the toilet.
And a lot of these countries are small and actually quite broken, in short they won't see the future without intervention of some sort.
Last edited by T0ribush; Sep 11, 2015 at 07:29 PM.
Originally Posted by T0ribush
Those people should feel lucky a super power has come from the land of opportunity to save them from the constant life in the dark ages.
Most of those countries are in a shit situation because occidental empires/countries fucked them up for their own profit in the first place. Africa and Middle-East have been divided and exploited for a lonnnng time.
They shouldn't "feel lucky" some big ass countries "help" them, big ass countries OWE them their actual power because they built themselves on other countries' natural ressources and misery. But 4 real, it's not actually helping, it's more like modern colonialism.
Last edited by deprav; Sep 11, 2015 at 09:46 PM.
Originally Posted by deprav
Most of those countries are in a shit situation because occidental empires/countries fucked them up for their own profit in the first place. Africa and Middle-East have been divided and exploited for a lonnnng time.
Pretty much this.
It's because of Western interference that these places are so full of conflict and stuck in the past. If we had of just left them alone and not decided to trample all over their self-determination rights, then this whole mess could've been avoided.
Killing Hope is a book I've read about the more than 50 times that the America's foreign intelligence service, the CIA, has intervened in the affairs of other countries, from 1943 to 2003.
Why does America, and the West more broadly, do this? It serves the national interest. The only way these sort of things would stop happening is if the naturally selfish nature of countries somehow changes.
