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Paris Terrorist Attack
Today. November 13th, around 4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Explosions and shoot outs took place in 6 different locations in Paris, France. A concert, a theater, and multiple restaurants/bars were the locations targeted

As of now, 128 people are accounted dead. Where as there are sure to be more that have not been counted yet.

It has been hypothesized that ISIS is behind the attacks, but are not 100% sure.


Link for more info and then some to be released:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/world/paris-shooting/

What is your stand on this Attack? Are there any measures that you believe should take place now, or that should have been taken that could have prevented this? What do you think about the Refugees coming over to the US from Syria?


Edit: France has bombed Syria's stronghold of ISIS of Raqqa
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/middle...sis/index.html
Last edited by WeooWeoo; Nov 17, 2015 at 10:17 PM.

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Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
I've been saying it for a while. Do not accept refugees. Closed borders are a good thing. Let the middle east sort themselves out.

Other than not introducing people who are already extremists into the general population, not antagonizing the already existing populace and disenfranchising youth would be a good place to start.

The only way forward is to step back. Remove schengen until the world is stable. Progress cannot be made as it stands.

I don't quite know what to say about the victims... It's such a terrible fate, I can't imagine the sheer terror they went through. My heart goes out to them and their families.

As much as the number immigrants flocking to Europe is unrealistic and unsustainable, the perpetrators are not Immigrants but militant ISIS members.

Also to the people who said that the shooters don't matter, I disagree, Isis needs to be stopped.

These shootings are linked to the Hebdo incident imo
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No one puts their children on a boat unless the water is safer than the land, no one runs for the border unless they see their whole city running too.

For fuck sake have some humanity, who gives a shit who people are or where they're from they're fucking humans. You had the fortune of being born and raised in a first world country. These people doing harm will do harm regardless of whether or not they're legally allowed in the country. There will always be people harming others. Harming humans. I don't understand at all the lack of compassion and empathy displayed by so many

Terrorism has no religion, it has no nationality. Stop pretending that officials in Downing Street or the White House are any less of terrorists than those involved in ISIS.

I don't care what recourses refugees drain, I don't care what religion or creed they follow. I don't care what country they are from. They seek asylum. No one leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark.
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I agree with neko , terrorism has no religion and isis are people getting paid to kill like the mercenaries .
and have some feelings for the innocent people who get refugee . if Europe closed its borders , small children would be killed and other horrible stuff would happen . its not about sorting your own business yourself , its about exterminating IsIs .
Last edited by Moataz; Nov 14, 2015 at 10:17 AM.
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Regarding the "fuck immigrants" thing

I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).

That said, muslims =/= immigrants.

People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.

Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor is it a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you and all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.

Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.



And for those who have the nerve to claim that screaming "allahu akrab" while killing over 100 "infidels" in the name of allah has nothing to do with religion, or islam:
Eat a crusted poo.
Last edited by cowmeat; Nov 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM.
if obama really has balls like George W. Bush did then we will bomb the ever loving fucking piss out of isis , what isis is doing is fucking bullshit because they cant kill all of us
and even if they try by the new election if Donald trump gets in then we will team with the
ally's and beat the living shit out of isis
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Damn cowmeat, that was controversial.

I am not catholic, yet I go to a catholic school. I take a mandatory religion class every year, and one of the key focuses is religious pluralism. I have been to mosques, I have been to Buddhist and Sikh temples, and when the right people practice these religions, it can be beautiful. Although I do agree that Isis is terrible, bundling up all of Islam with that terrible group of people is wrong. I think you need to actually look into Islam before you spread such senseless hate.

Go look up famous Muslims. You'll probably see some familiar names there. Ask yourself if they've done anything wrong in the name of their god.


Anyway, this thread is turning into another debate of religion and race, just like all other terrorism threads. It will probably get closed soon.
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Originally Posted by cowmeat View Post
Regarding the "fuck immigrants" thing

I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).

That said, muslims =/= immigrants.

People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.

Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor is it a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you and all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.

Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.



And for those who have the nerve to claim that screaming "allahu akrab" while killing over 100 "infidels" in the name of allah has nothing to do with religion, or islam:
Eat a crusted poo.

Islam is an inherently peaceful religion like all religions. people should be able to believe what they want. there are radicals in every religion that kill if you don't believe that. do you think Christians are all peaceful believers?

anyway muslims do = immigrants, because they can be immigrants. they aren't just all terrorists like you claim. that being said, you can't really tell if anyone is a terrorist or an immigrant, it's up to the search and discretion of the country. that's why US border laws are tight and we almost let no one in. it's sad what happened but you cannot blame an entire nation or religion for it even if you wanted to.
Last edited by mWah; Nov 14, 2015 at 07:51 PM.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig View Post
Well firstly, not all religions are peaceful... Why would you make that assumption? There are many religions that had GODS OF WAR. For example ancient Greek, Roman, Aztec, etc.

Secondly, no there are not Christian terrorists hell bent on destroying western civilization. We are talking about people who want to destroy these countries being let in, make no mistake. If there was a Christian group like that, then of course I would say don't let them in. Why would anyone let people who want to kill them into their country just because it's the politically correct thing to do? All of Europe is suffering.

By peaceful I mean religions aren't made to attack people. They just aren't, the goal is to worship a god. Look up the definition of a religion. Sure, terrorists can be produced by religions but that doesn't make the religion bad. You think having a god of war makes a religion not peaceful? If anything, you could say any god of any religion is a god of war as that god is believed to protect people during war. Even the Christian god did that. Again, that doesn't make the religion not peaceful. Do you think there are not Christian attempting to destroy Islamic countries? I mean I get it if you're definition of a terrorist is one who attacks western civilization, which is understandable since we live in said area, but if you're going by the broad term there are definitely Christian terrorists. But they don't effect us because they aren't invading the United States or Britain to take them down because those areas are primarily Christian already so we don't refer to them as terrorists. It's all about pov in that regard.
You do not allow the KKK to represent Christianity and white people so why the fuck do you all seem to think these extremists and Isis represent Islam?

This is a very small minority, with Islam being one of the most popular religions in the world

If you don't want refugees stop voting for people who bomb these countries
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