i tried making it more live like but i can remove it once you give me the second no

You guys said the colors were a bit too fruity, so I darkened them a bit. I can do a different concept of the flames on each banner if you want.



Personally, I like the design I used in http://forum.toribash.com/showthread...541904&page=10 , but its up to you guys if you are willing to go with this current design.

I like the first one more than the second one, to be honest. I'll just reiterate that the only huge problem I saw with the first one was all the space being filled by only the clouds, so I would have suggested making the clouds smaller.

Just a heads up... I really like what Zwift and Fadibob are doing. I feel like they're very close to having what we want, and I'm not sure you continuing to work on it will be a good use of your time. However, if you do come up with something really cool and creative and think it'll work, feel free to stop by and show us.


Ooh~ I like it. I can see a few things right now that I don't like, but this was a huge step in the right direction, I think, and you're getting close.

I'll think about this for a bit. I want to identify the exact elements that I think should be removed and added, and I'll add onto this post when I do. I think it'll be more time efficient for all of us if I do that.