Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Never learnt a language formally, tbh learning a language isn't a big deal, I don't think you should be focussing on how to learn a language. If you have a job you learn how to use the tool in order to complete the job, familiarity will speed you up, but learning a language is no obstacle.
Code combat, Euler project, and khan academy come to mind. There's lots of programming challenge websites like topcoder or codejam or pythonchallenge or ... etc just google "competitive programming".
Again though, don't focus on learning languages. Programming is a tool used to solve problems, focus on what problem you need solved then find and apply the correct tool. What interesting problems do you have Solax? Learning SQL won't help you write an autoclicker for example.
What is your interest in the area? You focus a lot on languages so I'm guessing you don't into science or engineering :L
I really like what you said, coding is more of a tool than anything, and looking at it that way seems better.
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I'd find it difficult if all I knew how to do was code php and I wanted to create a brand new community with game servers and forums or if I wanted to create an interactive web application.
There is a lot that could go into it. Frameworks, Admin tools, operating systems, other languages etc etc.
Focusing directly, 100% on a language isn't necessarily the best choice. It is important to make sure you understand how the language works, but there is more to it than that.
There is a lot that could go into it. Frameworks, Admin tools, operating systems, other languages etc etc.
Focusing directly, 100% on a language isn't necessarily the best choice. It is important to make sure you understand how the language works, but there is more to it than that.
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Originally Posted by Link
I'd find it difficult if all I knew how to do was code php and I wanted to create a brand new community with game servers and forums or if I wanted to create an interactive web application.
There is a lot that could go into it. Frameworks, Admin tools, operating systems, other languages etc etc.
Focusing directly, 100% on a language isn't necessarily the best choice. It is important to make sure you understand how the language works, but there is more to it than that.
Yea there's much more to just knowing the language. Using programming as just a tool and ignoring everything else then yea you need knowledge about it of course but in typical contexts where you would use programming it's just as valuable to have a good understanding of the problem, the specifications, the customer's needs, the language's strengths/weaknesses and fir to the problem etc etc etc.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
I do some freelance webdev too, primarily in django though. What didn't you like about it?
Before that I was working at a firm that used .NET for their webapps. Comparatively I would say that django gives you a lot more power without you needing to think about it (eg automatic scheme and model generation).
Webdev is ok for money but the market is very saturated, a firm I work with from time to time charge insane fees for their websites, the charge over $200/hr for their devs time. IMO the only reason they get business at all is because they charge such fees. As freelance how do you value your time? I clock at $100/hr and then on fees where I see fit. Though sadly django is too fast to turn a profit with it alone...
Where/how do you market yourself to get work since, as you said, the market is pretty full up.
