Ok. If you call that a basic hip throw tutorial, we should work on an advanced hip throw tutorial.

Go for it. I have to finish head hunting first...

Do you understand what i mean about drilling against uke first? You can't expect any player thats new to hip throws to land his very first in mp.

yea. You should put the word "basic" somewhere on that tutorial so people don't get confused like I did.

i thought generic would be good enough.

anyways this is a replay thread lets see some replays.

a quick pick on hellcate, he proceeded to destroy me in the following matches.

awesome 2 on 1 throw to counter a lift.

easy afk to single to suplex in small dojo.

and whatever that is

I like to use an opener that gives me a good bend in my knees. To turn your hips in for a throw, use your front foot as a pivot to turn, then backstep.

Your ashi guruma was an uchi mata, your tai otoshi was a slam. The osoto gari was weird. It was like you did a harai goshi off of his leg throw attempt. Looked pretty cool tho.

If you do the knee of stone you can skip the lift step. Use the knee as a fulcrum to flip them over with the pec swap part of a full throw. So probably more a half throw
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As fir openers i prefer asymetrical openers. I try to have at least two main attack threads from any opener i use. Bein able to swap attackin sides is nice once they figure out how to counter them.
Your opener should also stop a turn two pec dm.
The option to drop your weight turn two is nice or change into a kick check. Or come to think of it it should flow into counters for the attacks you cone across the most.

they both suck hows that?

Single leg half throw. Nice job.
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Nice! That's another one people commonly do with out knowing its a real judo reaping technique. It's called kosoto gari. Pretty simple but effective huh?

http://judoinfo.com/images/animation...kosotogari.gif
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Fakey - this was decent. Me personally i would rotate that kick check into his kick bc u took alotta damage BUT i see you were focusing on the throw which is what really matters in this situation. Nice job

overthrow - Dont listen to iprime he's not a sensei like me.

First mistake around 450: you set your base leg (most important limb in hip throws) directly underneath uke's COG. Though this helped you get the lift, you'll see it left you with zero leverage for the throw which is why you lost your footing.
Now what you really want to do is set your base leg behind your opponent's COG so you can contract the base leg hip. This way your base leg will dig into the floor and give u the leverage for a hip throw.

Second mistake: You lost hope in the hip throw so you transitioned into a basic suplex. Now theres nothing wrong with this bc it gave u the win and this is how u want to fight in tourneys, duels, etc. But if you want a hip throw u gotta hold floor contact with that base leg.

I editted your replay to show you how you can trouble shoot situations like this. As i said to keep the base leg in contact so you can "reset" the throw.

First relax the base-leg-hip. *Edit: Sorry i have to correct myself, in this replay i actually extended-left hip to decrease the angle between the floor and the base leg.
While keeping the chest the same (never rotate-chest into the hip throw until uke is unbalanced and falling down) i swapped the pecs and shoulders. Going to the next turn...

Now that you established a stronger base leg, we're going to snap back into the throw. Re swap the shoulders and pecs, contract base leg hip.
To make it tighter we contract glutes.
Now finally we can test the chest, and it looked stable so i left rotated chest.

And there ya go, a clean looking hip throw.

I made a correction so ill point that out first:


In the replay it looks like I raised both shoulders but i actually swapped both shoulders to literally reverse and reset the throw. There was just some resistance against the rear arm lowering.

And thats a good question about the elbows and the other supporting leg.
I would answer both by says that the elbows and supporting leg (the one thats not the base leg) are not critical joints.
This doesn't mean their not important, it means that they are like variables that should be changed to support the momentum and balance of the throw. And it always depends from throw to throw.

But i agree with ur observation about the uchi mata style elbows.
Extending the lead arm elbow and contracting the rear arm elbow always seems to give the fastest downward momentum

Very smart mikehoy, very smart.