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ROBOTS good or bad for humans?
well im so scared of this: the technology now are robots whow can do jobs...

but if the robots do the work, what gonna do the humans?
well
its coming the something another era : The era of automation

im so worried of what is comming , ok? its this a serious talking : yes, but i think you need to see all with my eyes to know whats coming

robots working humans people losing jobs what gonna do the humans we need to think it.

i have some examples: robots who can play ping-pong whats the dangerous on this, if some robots can hold objects why not robots can hold guns and oher dangerous things and use them
or robots controlling the security...

what differentiates humans from robots? the humans can feel they can love and do much things but the robots has only a program and they do all they have programed

Yes and maybe im scratching my head
but its the think im thinking i y need to say it

soo Take time think everything about this and answer in this discussion

i like the robots but with exceptions the technology its going to far

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Agriculture is a great example of how technology destroying human jobs actually makes society wealthier in real terms, not just capitalist/economic means of exchange. Replacing people with technology that makes the process far more efficient frees those people up to apply themselves in different ways. Without all those different innovations, our entire tech sectors would still be tilling fields.

US manufacturing is another example of society needing to move on. About 89% of those jobs lost in the couple decades (maybe 15 years?) was lost to technology (it wasn't only trade deals; trade deals weren't even the primary factor (the other 11%)). Sure, it might be difficult and stressful to change careers, but people need to be flexible for society to actually improve. I'm of the opinion that supporting and aiding people during this transition is a responsibility of the government, although of course there are those who disagree....
ok i like the robots i think its good for all but with exceptions if robots replace humans to work they will not earn money and th
1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2.A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

ok with this laws on the robots the humans are not need to be afraid but the economy work or some more things gonna change and its changing too fast.

Thats why im afraid and not to robots and technology
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As Pouffy and Kore alluded to, the overwhelming majority of our jobs will become automated. Those jobs are gone and while a few specialised jobs may open up to replace them, there certainly will be far more unemployed people and far more people forced to accept lesser-paying jobs that may not fully support them.

This isn't necessarily a problem, it's just a change in how we're going to operate from now on. It would be negligent and ridiculous for our governments to allow all of the profit from the automation revolution to fill the coffers of corporations solely. Automation will become taxed and this money will then be distributed through our society in the form of basic income. Basic income means that we all receive a regular payment from the government that we would be able to live on. It's a social safety net to ensure that nobody is battling poverty while the super-rich fat cats from the automation companies dine in their decadence.
Last edited by Ele; Dec 12, 2016 at 03:55 AM.
Originally Posted by kendrikLMR View Post
I feel for every automated machine there is still a job created, because someone still needs to repair and maintain that machine. Eg. Teleportation eliminates taxi business, creates teleportation mechanics/repairmen. This is just an example (I shouldn't have to say that) but I think it shows that all we need are more transferable skills to train the workforce (obviously more tech oriented. government funded training to reduce job loss?)

I don't think jobs will be replaced at a 1:1 rate. For every machine, you don't need one person to maintain it. Consider truck driving, for example. There wouldn't be one person in charge of maintaining each self-driven truck, there'd be one guy in charge of maintaining a full fleet. If there were one person in charge of each truck, they would have very little to do all day, so I don't imagine this would be the case.

Yeah, there'll be new jobs that we've know are coming and there'll be new jobs that nobody predicted. I just don't think that there'll be enough of these for everyone. Automation is all about saving labour - The point of it is to make us humans as redundant as possible.

Anywho, that's why I don't think jobs will be replaced at a 1:1 rate. But who knows, really? It hasn't happened yet so all we're doing is speculating as best we can.
Last edited by Ele; Dec 13, 2016 at 04:02 AM.
wow i never know that discussion can go that far
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but the thing is the robots is need to use for well but we need to controll that use
Last edited by jorgul; Dec 17, 2016 at 09:54 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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ok but i think when we are constructing robots we need to made some weapons to destroy them if is necessary
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Humans better than robots cuz .The human made a robot.

Robot better than human if you robot make one robot with special intelligence
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There are like a few people that could create a robot like this.
This people may think different, nowadays we are even more individuals.

So in that case if you want a good robot, the devil lasts in the detail.
Of course we wouldn't argue over general requirements(or parameters).
But if you create something, you have a target audience, that you create it for.

So if a product has international popularity, you will have your customers that fit in that target audience and supports you, but also people that are impaired or even suffer because of your product.
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Small input (Get the pun hehe) :

People were already protesting against and destroying new technology 200 years ago because it was doing their jobs. We evolved out of this, we'll evolve out of that one.

There's always something someone can do