Originally Posted by xlr84life

Cowmeat may be the biggest dick in tb history but he's right here.

The rules haven't been thought out properly and minor details are very important for a speed event like this.

I'm still waiting to know if my replay is valid.

Also I don't see why we need to PM anyone, this is the event thread everything relevant should be discussed here so that everyone can see.

Look everything is good it's just the rules aren't clear. This mod is not suitable for a speed run.

I remember few years back there was a speed event, Jaker skipped the entire obatacle course and won 1st place.

Originally Posted by SirCBeard

So I'm new to the forums. Got here from the banner.
I have to agree that there's too much room to fudge the rules because this mod is circular with no walls.
As far as I can see, the right thing to do would be to reboot the event with a mod that adds border walls to all "illegal" areas in the current mod and/or remake the mod to be a straight line rather than in a circle so there's no corners to be cut.
For instance, if the tori is not allowed to pass over the logo, why is there not a wall there to stop them?

Originally Posted by ShhhMikes

Or you could read the rules our mod maker just posted

Originally Posted by cowmeat

According to the new rules all the replay this far are invalid right?

Originally Posted by SirCBeard

I did, but they're essentially identical to the other rules previously stated. I'm not trying to be a troll, I promise. Quite the opposite. The rules are as clear as they can be with the map given.
However... the essence of a speedrun is to cut every available corner, and while the rules state we "must pass over all of the mod" in order to qualify, some replays already submitted have been judged to be acceptable even though they clearly do not actually pass over all of the mod, as a simple example.
Clarity could be holistically established with actual physical barriers in the mod itself rather than the unclear format of rules, judgement, and perception.