Toribash
Original Post
Remove mandatory CnC rule in Art board
The rule that posts in the art board must offer CnC is silly.

It's narrowing the kinds of reactions that people are allowed to post in response to the art. Sometimes people just wanna say 'Woah, that's sick dude, keep it up'. They don't wanna go into some deep critical analysis of the art. From the perspective of the artist, we don't need a review from everybody, we just wanna see how people respond to our art.

Unfortunately, in the name of 'quality' posts, threads in the board don't get many replies, if any. Not many people wanna post their response to the art because of this restrictive rule.

I know I'm not the only one who neglects posting in the Art board cus of this.
Fancy yourself dictator, do you?

For the record, I'll echo what Moop said about you having a shitty attitude.
Originally Posted by 13chillz View Post
Did the roles get changed slightly from when I last looked?

There are 2 things I see that are wrong with the harsher cnc requirement.

If you create a "perfect" piece nobody is allowed to post because they need to have cnc on their post. This makes the author not want to post anymore because they got no replies.

The other is the rule naturally only leads to putting down the author because you have to find someone wrong in order to even post without getting an infraction.

That said, I think a post like "nice head, I like the expression/hair/nose/scar/metal" would open up the rules without being a useless post.


I can quote two infractions i got for simply saying I couldn't add cc to something because it was so complete. i try no to come here anymore rg art board because it seems as a totality mods are so dumb and bored all they can do is direct quite and infract people complimenting friends, ive since become an avid shit poster wherever i can be. ty new tori bash (not cre0 hes cool)

as long as its inplace as it is the forum will just stay as it is, it nver usd to be like this?

many parts of forum are dying from over constriction lmod /bored smod actions, kinda over it. Been here 9 years and this year has been the most frustrating i didnt know i signed up for a circle jerk of obstructive ruels and pandering to fucking children.

is that enough cc cause fuck mate keep killing boards with this shit its funny


P.s.p.s Artic and Tyzi are the worst smods in all 9 years I've seen I wish id taken more screens of their actions regarding public image. I dont speak from a place of no experience my Sister ran a forum for multiple years(metal throne, she would legitimately infarct her smods for doing this shit) it is a deterant to activity stop supporting it guys )

Her user was 'Phantasm' Forum admin contracted. fuck this shit has gone to hell I'm over it. Link

This is part of Toribash's issues these days KEK
Last edited by Shogun; Jun 19, 2017 at 11:57 AM.
<Diamond> I gotta say I think you're wonderful, stay that way. Or be more wonderful if you wish.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
If the tag won't change how TyZi or Arctic enforces what we've been talking about though, then what's the point of it? The over-moderation problem remains.


For this to work they will need to agree to relax their standards in threads that don't have the [CnC] prefix. Else the change is superficial and this is all for show.

?

threads without the prefix will have more relaxed moderation. that's obvious, that's why the rule was made. just read it.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Fancy yourself dictator, do you?

For the record, I'll echo what Moop said about you having a shitty attitude.

he's just being realistic, though. we won't remove the rule entirely, won't happen. that's getting rid of posting standards and letting people shitpost freely. if your main argument to defend the rule removal is that the activity in art is low, then if we just turn it into wibbles 2 the activity will rise intensely. that's quantity over quality. we are already giving you a more laidback option with this new rule.
Originally Posted by Shogun View Post
I can quote two infractions i got for simply saying I couldn't add cc to something because it was so complete. i try no to come here anymore rg art board because it seems as a totality mods are so dumb and bored all they can do is direct quite and infract people complimenting friends, ive since become an avid shit poster wherever i can be. ty new tori bash (not cre0 hes cool)

as long as its inplace as it is the forum will just stay as it is, it nver usd to be like this?

many parts of forum are dying from over constriction lmod /bored smod actions, kinda over it. Been here 9 years and this year has been the most frustrating i didnt know i signed up for a circle jerk of obstructive ruels and pandering to fucking children.

is that enough cc cause fuck mate keep killing boards with this shit its funny


P.s.p.s Artic and Tyzi are the worst smods in all 9 years I've seen I wish id taken more screens of their actions regarding public image. I dont speak from a place of no experience my Sister ran a forum for multiple years(metal throne, she would legitimately infarct her smods for doing this shit) it is a deterant to activity stop supporting it guys )

Her user was 'Phantasm' Forum admin contracted. fuck this shit has gone to hell I'm over it. Link

This is part of Toribash's issues these days KEK

actually, i could only find one infraction that you got for making a useless post in the art board. post:
Originally Posted by mmm
Only critique I have, is that I would have preferred a few more laser raptors around the end. Other than that however this is beautiful.

"<epik meme> nice jobbo lol". if you read the rules, you'll realize that you broke them. i was simply enforcing a rule.
but well what am i saying really maybe letting people post gigantic TroleFaces along with lengthy cnc like "NICE" is the solution to all of our problems

btw, you should try to keep your personal attacks and whatnot out of this thread. they aren't relevant in any way. if you have a problem with the way i act or whatever, go to staff complaints with a valid complaint.
if you really think i care about my Public Image in the toribash forums though then lmao im sorry
That was really bad sorry.
Someone tell me why this guy is highly respected by some people ???
Originally Posted by Arctic View Post
?

threads without the prefix will have more relaxed moderation. that's obvious, that's why the rule was made. just read it.

Not according to TyZi. Won't change the way he moderates.
Originally Posted by TyZi View Post
We already spoke on this, and if it works, by all means go ahead. Wouldn't change the way I moderate the board myself.

If he's not agreeing to change how he moderates then the new rule means nothing to him. We need all mods to follow the rule, but nothing changes with him (he fancies himself special), that's the issue.

Then when I brought the point up, he went full baby-king and basically said 'Well screw you, not implemented then'.

To which you just defended by asserting that he's just being 'realistic'. Let's go over this again. He decides he's not going to enforce the new rule, I call him out on it, he says 'fuck you no rule change then' (even though he wasn't going to enforce the new rule anyway) and then you post and tell me to 'read' the new rule and defend TyZi's childish stubbornness.

You seem to think he's on-board with this new change. He's told us he's not and when I called him on this, saying how this wasn't going to work then, he said he'd just go and close this whole thread - Doubling down on his position. You shouldn't be defending his poor actions. If anything, you should be telling him to stop being so petulant and to get on-board with the program like everyone else.
Last edited by Ele; Jun 20, 2017 at 03:26 AM.
Originally Posted by TyZi View Post
We already spoke on this, and if it works, by all means go ahead. Wouldn't change the way I moderate the board myself.

As in, the rule is being changed to what I already go by. This isn't just me dismissing what you're saying, it's Suo compromised and changed the wording of the rules so that it's clear what we expect. (Not cnc, for you to talk about the OP at all) You are asking for something unrealistic and wouldn't be allowed in any other board either, so there isn't a point discussing it. It really has nothing to do with Arctic or myself.
Originally Posted by Kaneki333 View Post
I'm Brazilian, i'm alredy fucked every day i wake up

@Ele
Just follow the rules... Nothing to it, If you are unfairly treated report them and file a complaint. Also(to my knowledge) Tyzi or Arctic haven't actually done anything yet sooooo....
Last edited by KDigityDog; Jun 20, 2017 at 04:21 AM. Reason: Added an s
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Originally Posted by TyZi View Post
As in, the rule is being changed to what I already go by. This isn't just me dismissing what you're saying, it's Suo compromised and changed the wording of the rules so that it's clear what we expect. (Not cnc, for you to talk about the OP at all) You are asking for something unrealistic and wouldn't be allowed in any other board either, so there isn't a point discussing it. It really has nothing to do with Arctic or myself.

Tell me, what am I asking for? All I'm asking for is for everyone to comply with the new [CnC] prefix distinction. You act as if I'm crazy.

You just said Suo's change won't affect how you moderate, because all he changed was the wording to fit your understanding of the rules. Well no, it should affect your actions, because it's much more than just a rewording of the rules. We've introduced the [CnC] prefix for the previous level of moderation that you enforced - If we want the strict overmoderation like before, then we have the new [CnC] tagged threads. This means that in threads not tagged [CnC] we want less intensive moderation. In other words, outside of the [CnC] tagged threads, you are not to continue to moderate how you used to.

Otherwise, nothing has been accomplished here. There's no point in any tag distinction between threads if your moderation remains the same regardless. See what I'm saying? The introduction of this tag division necessitates a change in your moderation duties. You must have different quality standards, and the standard for the untagged threads must be lower than what it was for all threads before - Else again, nothing has changed and the problem hasn't been addressed (problem being overmoderation scaring people away).

Originally Posted by KDigityDog View Post
@Ele
Just follow the rules... Nothing to it, If you are unfairly treated report them and file a complaint. Also(to my knowledge) Tyzi or Arctic haven't actually done anything yet sooooo....

I'm 100% confident you don't understand or could articulate my position.
Last edited by Ele; Jun 20, 2017 at 07:32 AM.
You should try posting in the art board at all to find out how anyone moderates. ;)
Originally Posted by Kaneki333 View Post
I'm Brazilian, i'm alredy fucked every day i wake up

Originally Posted by TyZi View Post
You should try posting in the art board at all to find out how anyone moderates. ;)

>ignores argument, makes petty jab

I have posted there. I'd post more, but art mods can sometimes be very unreasonable. Like right now. How about you grow up and revisit my previous post?
Ok here, suo said this to me himself word for word.
Originally Posted by suomynona
If the thread does not have the [CnC] tag, then you are allowed to post basically anything so long as you explain why. If we can move your post to a completely random thread and it will still make perfect sense, then you're probably not engaging with the artwork enough. However, if your post makes more sense in the thread you post it in than any other thread, it's probably fine.

If the thread does have the [CnC] tag, then you are allowed to post basically anything, so long as you explain why you're posting what you're posting and how to (with respect to what you posted) improve the work.

^That will set the record straight for what's allowed an not.

Ele calm tf down, you know I don't appreciate you insulting me for no reason, and try taking my correct advice it would serve you well. I gave you the perfect way to follow the rules as written and drop the conversation. Do you REALLY think that you are some kind of genius and almighty protector of the art board just because you posted this thread? Guess what...You're not.

And yes I do understand what this pointless argument is about and my response was wait until Tyzi does something wrong and then report him... you know like a sane and reasonable person.
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