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Originally Posted by Retro View Post
If we're talking about ways to help out with USD Dueling, why is there not just a dueling system put into place on the site? Similarly to how Clans work, a user requests a duel with someone with a set price, best of, etc. After it is accepted both players send their USD via paypal to a middleman account of some sort, and they duel, the system keeping track of what occurs as well. After they win, the bankaccount transfers the USD to the winner.

Not too sure about the issues that could come up with this and the possibility of it becoming a thing(or the difficulty to implement) but it seems like a very easy way to fix to this dueling issue. It would also not only be limited to USD. It could be a bot for automated middlemanning, it would lower the duel scamming chance tremendously. SMod+ would obviously have the ability to send items back to the respective people and cancel duels.

I don't see why this isn't a thing or hasn't been a thing before.

I'm pretty sure while I was MSquad, there was a suggestion like this/this was brought up.
There could be a system implemented where the wager is put into Toribash's Paypal account or w/e system is used. Then when the duel is over, Toribash sends the money to the winner. If hampa wanted to he could keep a certain % of the funds.

However, this may also lead to certain problems all in its own.
The major problem back in the day about this, is getting a site dev to actually get it up and running, etc.
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Personally, they should just get rid of USD transactions. Make it a bannable activity.
That's just my opinion.
Originally Posted by DruggedPanda View Post
I'm pretty sure while I was MSquad, there was a suggestion like this/this was brought up.
There could be a system implemented where the wager is put into Toribash's Paypal account or w/e system is used. Then when the duel is over, Toribash sends the money to the winner. If hampa wanted to he could keep a certain % of the funds.

However, this may also lead to certain problems all in its own.
The major problem back in the day about this, is getting a site dev to actually get it up and running, etc.

Iirc that would have problems with taxes or some shit

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that would be the more convenient thing to do instead of making this whole new rule but still compensate the other user if he got scammed by the other like taking the items from his account etc...
I don't see why staff couldn't just say "Right, 1 USD is about 15k, let's compensate for iTemp being scammed of USD by taking (USD * 15k) value of items from Shmevin's account and sending to him"
Originally Posted by Surge View Post
I don't see why staff couldn't just say "Right, 1 USD is about 15k, let's compensate for iTemp being scammed of USD by taking (USD * 15k) value of items from Shmevin's account and sending to him"

They could yes, but then that's them generating TC that shouldn't be in the "Toribash Economy".
Also, what would then stop people from making scam reports against themselves or against friends in order for them to get free TC when neither of them had money to duel with anyways.
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the main reason for that rule is that you can’t truly prove paypal screenshots, they can always be edited and you can’t look at the account history like they can in toribash. it’s not really that they’re unable to compensate someone

they once spawned 500k tc for me after i got scammed $35 from tc for usd trade
Last edited by Nerfpls; Sep 29, 2017 at 09:46 PM.
how is that generating tc when he legit said take items equivalent to 1 usd which is like 15k from the other users account and NOT SPAWNING THEM IN also it's pretty stupid to do that since both parties will result in getting banned
Originally Posted by iTemp View Post
how is that generating tc when he legit said take items equivalent to 1 usd which is like 15k from the other users account and NOT SPAWNING THEM IN also it's pretty stupid to do that since both parties will result in getting banned

quote someone next time, hard to see what you're referring to

But yeah, depending on the case we'll sink items equivalent to whatever TC value is lost and send it to the person who was scammed. That said, it entirely depends on the case.
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Originally Posted by iTemp
that would be the more convenient thing to do instead of making this whole new rule but still compensate the other user if he got scammed by the other like taking the items from his account etc...

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Originally Posted by Nerfpls
the main reason for that rule is that you can’t truly prove paypal screenshots, they can always be edited and you can’t look at the account history like they can in toribash. it’s not really that they’re unable to compensate someone

Sums it up well.
Last edited by Creati0n; Sep 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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To people still thinking msquad should care about USD duels - do you realize I can now write up a script to fake each of you dueling me for $100, losing and not sending me the money? Alternatively, I can also legit duel you for USD and lose, keep acting like I've already sent you the money despite doing so and then contacting staff members with fake paypal receipts saying you're threatening to get me banned for no reason. In both cases it's impossible to prove who's telling the truth and who is not. Considering PayPal's terrific support team usually provides zero assistance even when mass chargebacks occur, getting assistance from them is not an option either.