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Net Neutrality
So apparently the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) plans to repeal/completely eliminate remove Net Neutrality laws over the united stated, by that meaning your ISPs can do multiple things:
if the vote were to be passed on the voting date (December 14th) you would also no longer be able to be 'anonymous' as the net neutrality laws forces ISPs to treat all data the same, but without it, it means they can spy in on your data, and see everything you do.
By blocking websites they can force you to only be able to visit certain websites, such as blocking something as this (toribash), blocking access to youtube or putting it behind a paywall to even watch things that dont use youtube red.
overall the repeal could be horrible, and fuck over the united states as a whole, and me being a somewhat poor person i can't move to somewhere like the UK to escape this bullshit.
Overall, i'm afraid this may or may not be the end of a 'free internet' per-say.
Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/t...eutrality.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5bf1b138cfa1
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/21/ne...lity-comments/
- charge for specific websites
- slow down access to websites (in return killing them)
- create 'packages' for things even like google
- completely block website access
if the vote were to be passed on the voting date (December 14th) you would also no longer be able to be 'anonymous' as the net neutrality laws forces ISPs to treat all data the same, but without it, it means they can spy in on your data, and see everything you do.
By blocking websites they can force you to only be able to visit certain websites, such as blocking something as this (toribash), blocking access to youtube or putting it behind a paywall to even watch things that dont use youtube red.
overall the repeal could be horrible, and fuck over the united states as a whole, and me being a somewhat poor person i can't move to somewhere like the UK to escape this bullshit.
Overall, i'm afraid this may or may not be the end of a 'free internet' per-say.
Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/t...eutrality.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5bf1b138cfa1
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/21/ne...lity-comments/
Why is this not the main topic of discussion, THIS IS SERIOUS PEOPLE!!! If internet providers partner with gaming companies this could effect the GAMING INDUSTRY AND EVERYONE IN IT. Your favorite games could be brushed aside in a rule-less internet. This doesn't just effect websites, this effects EVERYTHING INTERNET. If you think just because you don't live in the U.S you are safe, Well let me tell you once your government realizes just how much money is at stake doing this you could very well find yourself in our situation. This isn't just stupid, its dangerous. I genuinely fear for Ajit Pai's safety at this point, he will be messing with some peoples livelihoods.
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If this happened i think the market would eventually correct itself. One of the many competing ISPs would offer "net neutrality" as part of their featured service and as customers flock to that provider the rest of the ISPs would follow that fashion.
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Or it will all be a clusterfuck.
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Or it will all be a clusterfuck.
Last edited by footlox; Nov 28, 2017 at 09:29 PM.
Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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Originally Posted by Fates
If you think just because you don't live in the U.S you are safe, Well let me tell you once your government realizes just how much money is at stake doing this you could very well find yourself in our situation.
The main problem is not so much that i think i'm safe as it's being unable to do anything about what's going on in 'murica. I mean sure, i could write to relevant people over there, but they're going to give exactly zero shits about some dude from across the atlantic who they don't make any money on.
Don't get me wrong, this is a DEEPLY concerning turn of events, and although Denmark is slightly less in the grasp of corporate jackasses, i absolutely don't doubt that the politicians would see this as an excellent way to squeeze even more money out of the population (and then they'll use that for tax reductions, whoop-de-fuckin'-doo). All i'm hoping for, if this repeal gets passed, is that people will figure out a way to either bypass the inevitable restrictions or otherwise punch the relevant people directly in the
But, alas, anyone outside of USA can't really do much of anything besides scowling and shaking their fists angrily. Even if we could, pathos alone would matter zilch to these people; the only way to make them listen is if their bottom line drops.
Originally Posted by PixelateTori
Or straight up allow people to buy faster internet.
... This is already a thing though. Last time i checked, connection speed and monthly cost are generally proportional. :v
The rest of it though, yes, very true. It could very well end up being like it is in China, where you can basically only access goverment-approved websites due to the extreme internet censorship they have. As of right now, the net neutrality repeal is for money and not for propaganda, but unfortunately, it could EASILY swing in that direction too.
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The repeal of Net Neutrality is a very scary thing. As stated in OP, they can put certain sites behind paywalls, and slow your internet when you attempt to access certain websites. I am 100% for Net Neutrality. I think that if I'm paying Cox to provide me with internet services, that I shouldn't be stonewalled when I want to watch Netflix, or Youtube.
Consider the implications of Net Neutrality. If they can see which websites you view, because this is necessary to determine whether or no you need to pay an extra fee in order to access it, whats to stop them from always viewing your browser searches and websites you visit? The invasion of privacy would be limitless.
It also doesn't hurt to mention the fact that Ajat Pai also has connections in multiple organizations that would benefit from this. He used to work for Verizon, and also has had quite the bias towards the Sinclair Broadcast Group. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, because why would someone be so dead-set on doing something as controversial as this unless he had a motive.
Let's take a look at the Sinclair Broadcast Group. Recently, two Democrats in the House of Representatives have asked for a probe into the FCC, though mainly pointed at Ajit Pai's personal bias towards them. Basically what they are saying is that recent legislation that the FCC has passed greatly benefits this single organization. These accusations are fairly without evidence, but it definitely warrants a greater look into the issue.
I believe that the appeal of Net Neutrality will be passed, as the FCC is mainly a conservative organization at the moment. However when it reaches Congress, it will be appealed as many of the conservatives in congress disagree with the actions Ajit is taking.
Consider the implications of Net Neutrality. If they can see which websites you view, because this is necessary to determine whether or no you need to pay an extra fee in order to access it, whats to stop them from always viewing your browser searches and websites you visit? The invasion of privacy would be limitless.
It also doesn't hurt to mention the fact that Ajat Pai also has connections in multiple organizations that would benefit from this. He used to work for Verizon, and also has had quite the bias towards the Sinclair Broadcast Group. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, because why would someone be so dead-set on doing something as controversial as this unless he had a motive.
Let's take a look at the Sinclair Broadcast Group. Recently, two Democrats in the House of Representatives have asked for a probe into the FCC, though mainly pointed at Ajit Pai's personal bias towards them. Basically what they are saying is that recent legislation that the FCC has passed greatly benefits this single organization. These accusations are fairly without evidence, but it definitely warrants a greater look into the issue.
I believe that the appeal of Net Neutrality will be passed, as the FCC is mainly a conservative organization at the moment. However when it reaches Congress, it will be appealed as many of the conservatives in congress disagree with the actions Ajit is taking.
