First off, I want to start this off by saying this is not a flaming thread.
This is purely for discussion, to share opinions and understand the other's point of view. All i ask is that you please, please watch the whole video. Don't stop halfway and start writing without listening to the whole song.

But pick the song apart, give opinions on it, things you notice with the video, how it corresponds with the song, anything and everything is welcome.

A couple questions to start this off: after watching the video, what's your opinion on this? Did they cover both sides accurately? Even after years where slavery ended, and people now fight to end racism in some parts of the world, why is racism still such a big thing?


THIS VIDEO MAY OFFEND SOME PEOPLE, AS IT USES RACIAL SLURS AND STEREOTYPES TO PROVE A POINT. PLEASE DO NOT WATCH OR COMMENT IF YOU HAVE NO INTENTION OF PROVIDING A VALID VOICE TO THIS DISCUSSION

i'll give my opinion once a discussion is started.

I saw this when it came out +1
This whole entire song is based off stereotypes.

The thing with the n-word is that it has lost its original meaning. It was used in a derogatory way to offend black people and now they use it all the time. But white people aren't allowed to say it In my opinion, either everyone should be able to use a word, or nobody should be able to use a word. We need to learn to move past racism, we're all fucking human, but that'll never happen because people tent to find any reason to hate others.

In my opinion it's a good song but besides that.

after watching the video, what's your opinion on this?
The song is good, he has a good point on the stereotypes, the fact that black people, can say this, and we can't say that, and racism as a whole has been around for a while, they take offense to the word just because of the past, that most likely will not happen again, overall stereotypes are a huge concept in this world, and take play in things like racism.

Did they cover both sides accurately?
I'd say 50-50, although i will admit that our government in the USA is sort of corrupt, and a lot of the rich people that are indeed white, do think a lot about stuff like power, selfishness, greed, and things like that.

Even after years where slavery ended, and people now fight to end racism in some parts of the world, why is racism still such a big thing?
Due to stereotypes, and other things, people are butthurt over the past, hatred spreads. Think the biggest part of this is the phrase 'we become what we behold', which is a game but also a very dark but true quote. They see hatred, it spreads, they see anger, it spreads, so on and so fourth, as with every being, not saying people are 'sheep' or even the 'monkey see monkey do' story, this is completely different, especially with media, no one wants to see niceness on the news, on media, it's not as interesting as hate, as other types of things, but that's a whole 'nother topic, what i'm getting at is, hatred spreads, and as it does, things like that happen, racism.

Multiculturalism isn't working, get over it.

User was infracted for this post (no one-sentence posts).

Can you provide why you think that? Your comment is kind of exactly what I asked people not to post.

The video is too long and too boring, you know what they are going to say without listening to the whole thing.
You are not going to get a reasonably fast solution to this problem. Being tolerant and standing up for minorities is already a fucking joke ruined by SJWs, marginalizing whites. Blacks have no reason to tolerate whites whatsoever, it's not 'cool' to be friends with white people.

So any reasonable white person has a disdain for minorities, and minorities hate white people by default. This isn't something you can fix in a day or even a lifetime, but it's getting there.

You had Jim Crow not long ago, now you are all equal in theory if not in practice. The average American is more tolerant than their grandparents were, and your grandkids will probably be more tolerant than you are. But it's just that, tolerance. You'll never be an undivided nation.

We've had gypsyes in Europe as a separate ethnic identity for longer than you have been a country, for reference. Being divided like that will always cause friction.

You shouldn't need a shitty rap song to be able to hold a conversation about this topic.

Hmm. You're right, you shouldn't need a "shitty rap song" to have a friendly discussion about racism and why it's still around.

I think you missed the meaning of the song however. The discussion wasn't about the song itself, but over the real problem of racial stereotypes and why people have that disgust towards the other race. The song was an opening for this topic.

I disagree to your statement of standing with minorites being ruined by SJW's though. I don't think it's a joke at all. I think it's stupid to think that sjw are standing up for black people. Black people can stand on their own. However, I think that standing WITH black people shows a message. Eminem did that with the recent rap he did against Donald Trump.

"Any reasonable person has a disdain towards minorites"
But why?? I'd like to believe that I'm a reasonable person, but I don't hold disdain towards black people. True, there are some minorites that honestly freak me out. For instance, gangs. They scare me. But other black people that aren't in gangs(or maybe they are, I dunno) that are respectful and trustworthy, those people I get along with fine. I see no problem with looking at minorites as equal to white people.

As for changing it in a day or a year, I never even thought this thread would do that. This is simply to discuss your thoughts on the matter in a relatively friendly manner. Of course I know that you can't change millions of people's opinions in a day. Uniting something that has been divided for centuries is never an easy task.

Besides that, you can have a division and still hold the other side as equal to yourself. You're right, the world will never be undivided. But that doesn't mean we can't work together and view each other as equal.

As for the rest of your conversation, I'm not going to comment on. I don't know enough about the subject to provide any sort of argument over it

Now that there's some topic on this, and a heated one (which is kind of what I wanted, I wanted a bit of intensity behind this topic, but please don't rebuke other people opinions because they don't match your own) I'll start explaining my thoughts on the video, and racism in general.

To start it off, there are a couple people who seem to think my questions don't fit the video. Well, they'd be partly right. I made those questions more based around the more general topic of racism, not the video itself. The video was a starting point to a lengthy discussion about a serious topic, and wasn't supposed to be anything more.

Now, to answer some of the topics above, why wouldn't it be about both? Race and politics? They added Trump and the police and Eminem in the song because they're trending, it was designed to fire people up (and it worked apparently).

The video was based off of stereotypes, stereotypes being the twisted way another culture might view another. The whole point of using stereotypes in a video like this was to ease tension off the fact that there are people who legitimately act like this. Thankfully, as far as I know, these people are no longer as common. keep in mind that I'm from a different part of the world than you are. What I don't see, maybe others do.

Stereotypes also have a different meaning for this video. Because stereotypes all come from some basic source. Like I said before, the typical trump-supporting hat wearing fat, white American came from somewhere, right? And what about the crazy-hairstyle poor-clothing design from the African American? It doesn't mean that everyone looks and acts like the way they do. But some people do, and that's what this video thrust upon you.

As for bringing awareness to people, I think just my very discussion brought you a little more aware towards it. Personally, it sparked an idea that I could share this with you guys, and understand where you all stand on this. It didn't make me any more aware about racism in itself, but it let me remember that it's still very much a thing. I live in a fairly nice neighborhood, so alot of racism doesn't really happen around here. That's why I'm eager to hear from someone who's seen it first hand, experienced it, so I can know if it's getting any better from when you were young, when your parents were young.

Although it's a very touchy subject we're dealing with, please be open to others ideas. We're a small community, we can't just disappear here if we say something unacceptable.

I'll write out more replies in the next couple of days. There's a lot I need to reply to here

White people saying "nigger" is all about degrading the black person they are saying it to, depending on the context.
when it comes to saying "nigger" or "nigga" it is all about personal experience.
you're white you cant walk into somebodies hood and just start saying "nigga" and sure as hell not "nigger" because the meaning carries different weight in different places.
Now, if youre white and you've been in the hood all youre life that is different because you understand that in YOURE hood you can say that shit but you sure as hell not gonna role up in nobody elses hood and say that shit because you understand the culture and you understand how disrespectful that is.


"but but im not being disrespectful, its just a word I dont mean any harm." but that is what you dont get. Me, my brothers, my parents, their parents, everyone in my family has been called nigger before to be hateful for not fucking reason. I was fighting in K I N D E R G A R D E N, 5 years old because to white boys called my brother a nigger and tried to jump him. I've been fighting all my life, my family, my ancestors have fought all their lives we all been fighting all our lives because over some bullshit. It is not a matter of whether or not it is just a word it is about the personal message you feel when you hear that shit. I dont give a fuck if youre white and you say nigga as a means of greeting your friends. But once you start using it to throw the past in my face, once you call me a "nigger" because you think that it is funny, or because i've made you mad that is when I get to drop your ass for disrespecting my family.

I dont give a fuck if slavery was 200 years ago or if you think it is "Just" a word. Say that shit to me to provoke me and see dont I add another broken jaw to my tally list.

*Opinion passing by not contributing to current discussion* I don't have a problem with this video, in fact I like the idea, but I don't like how they take these two extreme stereotypes as examples and make it sound like they share opinions with majority of the population in US which is completely misleading for everyone.

I feel like at the end of the day this song can do more harm than good in some cases, because it is clearly "white vs black" and even though it has a good message, if a black person sees this video he will think "oh well then, every white person thinks like this guy, fuck them".

Overall good message, but could have been executed without these two extreme characters.