I'm sure most of you have already heard, but lets talk about it..

On Wednesday, February 14th; a mass shooting occurred at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland Florida US.

The shooter was a former student named Nikolas Cruz, who had been expelled prior for shit behavior. He then returned to the school sometime after and opened fire with an AR-15, killing 17 people. Students and Teachers alike.

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Alright, America has a huge issue when it comes to mass shootings. What was it that I saw, we have had 19 school shootings and it wasn't even March yet. This happens nowhere else but America at these extremes, and that has to do with our laws.

How I see it, is that we need way more background checks and overall mental health checks before purchasing a firearm here in the states. I don't think guns in of themselves are an issue, but it sure as hell doesn't help that there are more guns in the US than there are people. Then again, criminals don't obey laws and will gain weapons no matter what we do.

So my solution for this? There is no Solution. This is just how it is now here and we can only secure schools more strongly. Metal detectors and at least one police officer to watch over the school. We are grasping at straws.


TL ; DR Kid shot up school in Florida, US. Killed 17 people. Others are pissed and calling for gun control. I don't think there's a solution that close here in America. What do you all suppose should be done?

This seems to be a line that crops up a lot in discussions about guns.

Making guns harder to obtain, and it being a red flag if someone even owns one makes it much harder to plan such an attack, this is why the USA have a lot more shootings such as this one than other countries. British criminals still commit crime, and a few do have guns too, but the rarity of guns and how difficult they are to obtain reduces gun crime.

Another thing to bear in mind on this line of argument is that the people carrying out these attacks are unlikely to be hardened criminals or part of a highly organised groups, i.e. they are unlikely to have a network of connections that can easily get them illegal items without being detected; so guns being illegal would make it much more difficult for this kind of attack to happen. However, if you can simply go and buy a gun and a lot of ammunition then barely any premeditation or coordination is required for one of these attacks.

With how America is so fixated on, and just about loves their guns more than their people, I can't see guns becoming illegal here. Gun control in of itself is difficult to bring onto the table with how people are here. But I do agree that if guns were just illegal, these shootings wouldn't happen so quickly and easily.

I don't really know nor I want to know about gun purchasing, but sadly you can get some of it online. There is this website which is like a firearms amazon, but sadly I forget the link of the website, since my friend just showed the thing and ya I checked the website as my friend showed it to me. But I'm pretty sure it requires some basic stuffs like identification card and more to purchase any guns from the website.

Internet is scary, yet it's hard to limit the use of it.

With that being said, I think that a solution with this kind of matter is very unlikely to be found right away, but maybe in the future as people already aware of this kind of threat there will be options to maybe reduce the amount of this case.

There's also a thing called gun shows here in America where there's no background checks and it's a practical loop hole in the law. They recommend you get one but they cant enforce it there. It's a pretty stupid thing they allow.

Would not someone with extreme intent to kill go through the effort of illegally obtaining weapons, i can see gun control laws stopping something like common gang shootings and other things like that and reducing common shootings, but not mass ones

Handguns are a common weapon in mass shootings. Maybe not of recent, but just the last few years it's been the goto weapon for doing this.

Nah, America won't change shit. I don't know why people want their guns so bad. Constantly using the excuse "let's ban cars because they kill more than guns wah wah wah". Fucking jeez, that isn't an argument because people don't usually drive into crowds of people.

gun ownership ensures that:
- citizens are able to defend themselves at every instance ("when seconds count, police are minutes away")
- citizens are as theoretically as powerful as the government

not hard to understand

its seems people are forgetting what skeet shooting and hunting are

but hunting is a whole different controversy in itself

no matter what, people are going to break the law. people ALREADY obtain guns through illegal means. not sure if banning guns will help anything.





no. just no.

teens are emotional. having a gun ON you while you’re angry and not thinking straight is how school shootings happen. even if a mental evaluation is performed and somehow concealed carry permits are given to those under 18 to 21 (depending on where you live), a resource officer is established for a reason. even someone whos trained on the worst situation possible, addrenaline is pumping and its obvious from previous events in the US that people make the wrong decision when the pressure is on.

now put a kid with his own handgun in the situation of a school shooting. imagine the confusion, when the authorities arrive and that kid is standing there with a gun and is designated as a threat. that’d be shitty, yeah?

the better question should be: should it be legal for teachers to carry firearms within school grounds? (yes im already aware its legal in some places but not everywhere yet).

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For the love of god, no. The youngest you have to be in order to own any gun is 18, I believe. And you can only purchase a rifle and shotgun, no handguns. So seniors would be the only ones technically able to if that were the case. And I think that would be a bit much. A student could snap and just start the shooting from within. Now, a teacher with a handgun locked away in a case unloaded with a certain combination to open it or maybe a key locked away by ANOTHER key. I think that isn't a bad idea. Arming the teachers is tricky but not out of the question under the correct teachings of having them all take gun safety and shooting classes.

Oracle, that's a lot of statistics - too much for me to exactly say anything about it. Having a gun in the household can save your life, that isn't bad. And walking around with a concealed carry isn't bad either, since there's been many robberies and what not stopped by a civilian in the room with their gun.

There is no winning with guns, honestly.