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monkeyishi

Dec 9, 2017

monkeyishi

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Join Date: May 2008

Dec 9, 2017

how could we get 2v2 aikido working? first out team looses. fight on till both are down. would you start within grabbing distance of your team mate.

what does everyone envision toribash next to be like?
when i thin aikido i think grabs high gravity, dm, frac, incremental turn frames. instaa dq.

Iskenos

Dec 10, 2017

Iskenos

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Join Date: Nov 2015

Dec 10, 2017

Honestly, we don't know enough about TBN's game play mechanics to know for sure what we can do with the new platform.
Regarding the flux of new players (which is obviously good for us no matter how you look at it,) I think we should keep recruitment selective, we should be sure of people's character AND play style before we accept them into the org. I say this because Team aikido has become more then just a bunch of guys talking about a Toribash mod, we're a tight-knit community of friends that like to be together, and that's why we've survived this long. If we abandon our roots of friendship, TA will fall apart. *sniff*

monkeyishi

Mar 13, 2018

monkeyishi

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Join Date: May 2008

Mar 13, 2018

[TA] | Knowledge Base Revision...COMPLETE

[TA] Philosophy

I. Stance

II. Control Points

III. Force

IV. Damage

V. Strategy

Techniques: 47
These moves have been developed by [TA] members and are battle tested. Keep in mind that for any technique to work it requires correct timing, positioning, and execution.

Forbidden Techniques

Principle Techniques

Grip Strategies

Front Throws

Judo Throws

Leg Reaps

Leg Grabs

Ground Top Techniques

Ground Bottom Techniques

Striking

This tutorial will teach the generic hip throw formula that you can use from limitless positions and situations. All that is required is consistent practice and this move can become a tool used in offense, counters, and saves. This move can be drilled against a non-scripted/scripted uke, a partner, or in quick aikido servers. It is the pinnacle of judo techniques and its effectiveness matches its beauty.

Inspiration: In the real world hip throws are used in many forms of competition including judo (obviously), wrestling, submission grappling, and MMA (UFC,Bellator, etc). There are endless variations to the types of hip throws but they all follow a specific flow that can be applied to toribash's aikido mod.

Hip Throw GIFs

Step by Step: demo - hip throw tutorial.rpl

1. Control Points

2. Setting The Throw

3. Set base and Spring Up

---With Practice Steps 3 and 4 can be combined---

4. Bend Hips and Turn Chest

5. Secure Finish

Variations

Team Aikido has been teaching leg grabs under the principle that the best real-world takedown artists are wrestlers.
Leg grab attacks, when applied correctly, are highly effective in breaking an opponent's base.
Once the opponent's foot-base is broken, use pin pressure to finish the DQ or combine the leg grab with a throwing technique.
The trade-off with every leg grab is that you will be vulnerable to direct damaging and decap's.
Therefore, failure to properly finish or transition from a leg grab commonly results in a point loss.

Always apply these basic methods with any single leg attack:
1. Secure your grips on Uke's leg and upper body (Uke's arm, pec, chest, or head)
2. Keep your COG lower than your opponent's.
3. Relax wrists to prevent self-injury.
4. Use persistent and explosive movement to drive the takedown.

Cross Pick

Overturn Single

Knee Tap

Single Leg Suplex

Leg Grab Defense

Last edited by footlox; May 16, 2018 at 10:56 PM.

footlox

Mar 27, 2018

footlox

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Join Date: Jan 2011

Mar 27, 2018

UPDATE: I made some rough formatting edits and deleted Tiers. I hope ya'll like spoilers.

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Toribash Martial Artists

Rouxster

Mar 27, 2018

Rouxster

Thrower

Join Date: May 2014

Mar 27, 2018

It might just be me but the text for the tutorials is kinda messed up. I'm viewing on my phone.

I don't give a flyin' fladoodle

footlox

Mar 28, 2018

footlox

Senior Member

Join Date: Jan 2011

Mar 28, 2018

Culd u b mor pacific?

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monkeyishi

Mar 28, 2018

monkeyishi

Member

Join Date: May 2008

Mar 28, 2018

i would to propose that grips also include no grab grips. we could introduce it in the academy after leg reaps as an extension on the grounds that a leg reap/hook follows the same mechanics as arm no grabs.

I would also like to propose that we explain why the forbidden techniques are considered lame. my reasoning is that they are either boring to play against. though that can be counter argued with its part of the game so why not. They also will limit growth if you rely exclusively on them because while they can be powerful moves they are also narrow moves. we could prove this point with counter replays from a few different members of TA. In saying all this we should acknowledge that if a player comes up with these moves by them self it means they are on the right track as long as they don't get stuck there.

We have no breakdown type moves in ground techniques. for example in a hand to hand grab you can prevent a half formed bridge from extending to a full one and make their head dq. we could also fit post denial in ground moves. or perhaps this is all better in the academy till we solidify moves.

Also. No grab aikido where can we fit this in. pros and cons of it. perhaps we can fit it in if we can define more game play styles.

Rouxster

Mar 28, 2018

Rouxster

Thrower

Join Date: May 2014

Mar 28, 2018

It looks like this:

Screenshot

Also, I think it's sort of redundant to have "tutorial" after every entry since the spoiler is already titled "tutorials".

Last edited by Rouxster; Mar 28, 2018 at 10:59 PM.

I don't give a flyin' fladoodle

footlox

Mar 28, 2018

footlox

Senior Member

Join Date: Jan 2011

Mar 28, 2018

This is true. I'll fix it.
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Originally Posted by monkeyishi

i would to propose that grips also include no grab grips. we could introduce it in the academy after leg reaps as an extension on the grounds that a leg reap/hook follows the same mechanics as arm no grabs.

I would also like to propose that we explain why the forbidden techniques are considered lame. my reasoning is that they are either boring to play against. though that can be counter argued with its part of the game so why not. They also will limit growth if you rely exclusively on them because while they can be powerful moves they are also narrow moves. we could prove this point with counter replays from a few different members of TA. In saying all this we should acknowledge that if a player comes up with these moves by them self it means they are on the right track as long as they don't get stuck there.

We have no breakdown type moves in ground techniques. for example in a hand to hand grab you can prevent a half formed bridge from extending to a full one and make their head dq. we could also fit post denial in ground moves. or perhaps this is all better in the academy till we solidify moves.

Also. No grab aikido where can we fit this in. pros and cons of it. perhaps we can fit it in if we can define more game play styles.

To be clear you want a grabbing techniques and a no grabbing techniques section in the technique library?

And i agree about having a short description not just for forbidden techniques but at the start of all technique spoilers. And i think we hit the nail on the head with shoveling and related techniques in chit chat a few weeks ago. ill use that.

i don't understand what you mean about a breakdown type move for ground techniques.
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Anyone that's handy with gimp i could use a new graphic for control points. Make something that exhibits what's written and draw some lines n captions and shit to make it look scientific.

Last edited by footlox; Mar 29, 2018 at 08:29 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump

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footlox

Apr 3, 2018

footlox

Senior Member

Join Date: Jan 2011

Apr 3, 2018

Should ankle pick and cross pick be categorized as grip techniques instead of leg grab techniques? This is would be because i could get a ankle grab or cross grab and complete the attack w a knee tap or overturn execution. What do you think?
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Rate these techniques 1 to 5, 5=elite(most difficult)

Last edited by footlox; Apr 3, 2018 at 06:44 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump

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