That's what most of the community did.

I did it 'cause I'm broke and had little to gain and little to lose. Gung ho boy

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Thronior we missed you..

Welcome back dude. I may compete in a freestyle judo tournament next month.

How do we define a lift and should it be considered a forbidden/lame technique?

Lifts by themselves are lame. They are actually pretty useful to get a reaction from the opponent and set up a next move. Same thing with shovels: You could feint a shovel one turn and hit a snapdownon the next turn.

what if we work it from the underlying principles of what makes a play style/move lame?

I think it's lame because anybody can do it, as it doesn't require much skill. We think certain moves are cooler than others because they are unique... something you don't see every day.

whats up guys :B