Originally Posted by Micah

this shit has turned into garbage

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The thing about developing illnesses while smoking weed is that it doesn't just happen. if you smoke weed and then you notice that while you are not high you feel really nervous and emotional or scared for no reason, then you are probably developing schizophrenia. The chances increase 100 fold when you smoke something laced, but if you are quick enough, there is brain detox medicine that can help reverse these effects. Fortunately and unfortunately just as much so, 90% of the time this happens to those who are smoking weed that is laced unknowingly.

Darkember, you seem to have never driven while high or have been high yourself at all, but criticize as if you have. As someone who has driven high on multiple occasions, its not as big a deal as you are making it out to be. Being high does not make you retarded.
Driving drunk is not even allowed, so why the fucking do you think that smoking weed and driving will be allowed? people do it because people want to. Its not a matter of don't let high people drive they will just add on the the drunk deaths. We are talking about if it is safer than the alternatives, and it is, case and point.

You keep asking why would you encourage people to smoke weed.
Why do people encourage each other to drink, or even have a drink? did you think about that? i doubt it. "lets go out for a drink"
"Have another on the night is young"
and so on.

For the past few weeks, your argument has been the same with you reiterating it in a different way each time someone gives you a logical reason why it still makes no sense that weed is not legal.
Make a new argument or please, shut up.

This is what you keep repeating:
"People who smoke are retarded"
"smoke is bad for you"
"it will hurt the healthcare system/economy"

You know what this can be applied to? Anything.

"If there is a significantly increased risk of this happening while under the influence of a substance, I'd argue that that substance should be banned. You're right, people should have the right to choose what they do to themselves, but as soon as it becomes a significant risk to the safety of others, that's when the government should step in with legislation."

You know what this can be applied to? Anything

No one is sweeping cannabis accidents under the carpet because they rarely happen.

give someone 10 joints,
give someone else 10 cigarettes,
and someone else 10 bottles of alcohol.

and lets see who get cancer, or dies in a car crash first. Because I can just about guarantee you, that the guy who got high will be in the same place for the next 4 hours. Or at the park watching birds fly around.

at this point just seems you are being presumptuous, and it would be great if we could move the topic along and not keep turning around driving right back into the shit storm that this discussion has come to be.

Im tired of re reading the same bullshit 14 different ways. Talk about HOW it should be regulated or why it shouldn't be without saying shit that everyone has already heard 5 million times. We get you are against weed, cool. Talk how you'd regulate weed if it was legal, or what you would do to try and prevent it from being brought into the country. And if you do want it to be legalized, in what ways would you regulated it. At this point it seems that it will be legalized, so instead of shitting out of our mouths, lets all be productive and creative and make this thread interesting again and not a shit storm of people arguing about the dangers of something that is as dangerous as falling with a metal spoon, because no matter what happens people are going to smoke weed, drink, smoke, and whatever else until we are all dead anyway. This shit not a practice life, think about that.

Personally I wouldn't allow anyone under 20 to smoke weed, there would be designated public places to smoke it, as well as places to buy it, safely in set amounts per week. If you want to smoke while you drive you will need to apply for a tolerance test in which experience weed smokers will judge how high you can get and still operate efficiently, but that is still iffy tbh. If youre at home smoke as much as you want

Originally Posted by DarkEmber

I mean, your point on reiterating the same thing several times goes both ways. You always reply that since smoking/alcohol is legal, weed should be, which I rebuked by saying that you shouldn't make it legal just because things that are worse are legal. It's bad, it should be illegal. Simple.



Not everyone who wants weed to be illegal is a staunch Christian conservative. I'm an otherwise liberal atheist, honest! ;-;

Originally Posted by Mikes

World Health Organization Document

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https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...U0J47FuCrG1HM6

This link lol. Darkember. You are not citing anything either. So where do you get your info? The media. Smh such hypocritical statements you make lol. Never have i ever had issue being high and driving. Helps me in my opinion.

4.4.1 Cannabis and driving. Cannabis impairs driving ability and confers a higher risk for motor vehicle accidents. In experimental settings, cannabis impairs psychomotor skills and cognitive functions associated with driving, including vigilance, time and distance perception, lane tracking, motor coordination, divided attention tasks, and reaction time.170 Drivers may attempt to compensate by driving more slowly and increasing their following distance. On highways, cannabis is the most frequently reported illicit drug in connection with impaired driving and accidents, including fatal accidents. In the US, (2013), 62.6% of fatally injured drivers were tested for drugs and more than one-third (34.7%) were positive for cannabis. 171 In other countries some attribute increased roadside accidents to cannabis.172,173,174,175 The use of cannabis in combination with alcohol increases the risk of impairment more than use with either drug alone as the effects were additive.176

Originally Posted by SmallBowl

I assume this wast posted in response to Darkember asking for sources.

The source you posted has a load of examples and reports on the adverse effects of cannabis. It even has this section:



Have you read your source?

Originally Posted by Mikes

Lmao i will agree i went over only a little bit of it, i knew the adverse affects were likely listed, im not entirely stating that the driving aspect is true for everyone. In some cases people are anxious in traffic or in issues. i find im more calm and collected. i take time to make decisions, im more cautious, focused on what im doing i think maybe you should try it once before saying im deluded as i said IMO darkember. I think if more of our drivers were stoned there would be less road rage and people speeding off around each other hitting little kids cause there drunk. Id rather known that some one smoked a few bowls before driving than drank 4 beers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw1HavgoK9E

Watch this though x)

https://www.mtlblog.com/news/study-s...ility-to-drive

https://www.cnn.com/2015/06/24/polit...act/index.html

As well if you notice that a lot of research that is done is funded by big companies such as Big Pharma, Tobacco companies and alcohol companies and on the turn around are also the same companies who are funding Anti Marijuana campaigns and advertisiments. who can easily fudge the research as why would they want another big seller to put them out on sales.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...ir-bottom-line

So where do you get your info? The media.

Originally Posted by Dyspo

I bet a DWI will change this opinion in a heart beat. Why risk the lives and your car because you want to "Live your life legal or not".

Also you came to discussion surprised someone actually had facts to support their opinion. That there buddy is funny af.

Originally Posted by Mikes

Yet more people drive on perscription drugs that are untested and do worse. Wjat about people perscribed marijauana if it doesnt leave body for a extended time and they need it all the time should they not be allowed to drive.....what if i was perscribed it? Would you all say nothing if i needed it say for work? Wjat abkut people who need pain pills to go to work, i know tons of people who think its perfectly fine to be slurred motion and reaction and drive. Im backing out of this convo again for the 8th time its in my opinion. Got proved wrong lol idgaf. Dont saynim suprised i wasnt lol i was saying my opinion after i got proved incorrect. Mmmkay dont be wrong holyy fuck xD

Also one of my buddies dads is the chief of police here i know him pretty well. He gets stoned before going any where. Corrupt inknow but still. Probably didnt set a good example for us as kids