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Bot rules
Currently the rules on bots (http://forum.toribash.com/showthread.php?t=469766) say that bots cannot talk:
- Bots & Automation

Any nefarious use of unauthorized software will result in harsh reaction from the staff.
a) Any kind of bots playing the game automatically are not allowed. You may use scripts to quickly perform moves, however if you are found AFK-botting, you will be immediately banned.
b) Bots managing rooms without the presence of a human operator are not allowed. Bots may not be /house of any room.
c) Bots are not allowed to be in players list nor use chat.

My suggestion is to make bot allowed to talk, but only when a human triggered the action.

For example, my old BetManagerBot had some useful commands such as !nudgeline, which would tell the user where the nudgeline on a bet server is, or !nudges, which would say how many nudges a user has.

If the rule is because of spam, I think some caveats could be added, such as only allowing a bot to talk where it has OP, or where its owner has. Or maybe only allowing bots to use whisper.
Originally Posted by Surge View Post
What's the point of it though

I want to bring back FranBets, which lots of people liked, and to make the bet manager bot useful some commands have to use the chat, such as !nudges, which tell the user how many nudges it has available.
Originally Posted by Gang View Post
Bots are the equivalent of idle games. You idle to earn currency then come back and spend it.

If you were to read the rules, you would see that "Bots managing rooms without the presence of a human operator are not allowed", I'm not asking to have that rule changed, so I don't see what's your point.
Originally Posted by Fran View Post
I want to bring back FranBets, which lots of people liked, and to make the bet manager bot useful some commands have to use the chat, such as !nudges, which tell the user how many nudges it has available.

Oh yeah, I remember. I don't support this, imo hosting bet servers should be open for all players, and your bot/script/whatever is obviously going to make people want to come to your server over going to one with a perfectly fine host who doesn't happen to have the skills to make a bot.
Originally Posted by Solax View Post
I agree with changing it to allow replies/posting info when triggered by commands. Doesn't lend itself to chat spam and open up a lot more functionality for for bots/automated tools.

They can even reply in whisper so there is absolutely no concern for spam or flood.

I support usefull things like this that do not obstruct the game or create advantages for a specific user.

Maybe even official bots that you can summon in your room via command. So no bet room can possibly better then another bet room
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create a verified bot maker thing, not entirely a very wide thing but there ya go, simple fix to allow bot makers such as Fran to do fully cosmetic things with no malicious intent without the worry of unnecessary repercussions.
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Originally Posted by Solax View Post
I agree with changing it to allow replies/posting info when triggered by commands. Doesn't lend itself to chat spam and open up a lot more functionality for for bots/automated tools.

This here seems like a good stand, no automated responses what so ever to game events such as a new game or bets being laid, pure reactionary responses to !bet and similar commands.

Also, a hook protection on normal bets would prevent counter-betting based on elo and wr lookup from future bots.

(I cannot at the current time provide evidence of a counter bot being used, but one peculiar member of the community seems to have his timing of counter-betting down to the second as a reactionary response to bets being laid down...)
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Originally Posted by Natejas View Post
create a verified bot maker thing, not entirely a very wide thing but there ya go, simple fix to allow bot makers such as Fran to do fully cosmetic things with no malicious intent without the worry of unnecessary repercussions.

I'd like to see this actually (but not necessary right now since only 1 or 2 people make bots)