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Activity check and Legendary clans news
Good morning to all of you,
Today's news have been in discussion for quite a while among the clan staff team, and today they can finally be announced to the public.
What exactly is the news?
We have 2 major news points.
Thank you all for reading, if you have any questions or objections feel free to point them out in this thread, cheers.
Today's news have been in discussion for quite a while among the clan staff team, and today they can finally be announced to the public.
What exactly is the news?
We have 2 major news points.
1. Activity check automation, check criteria, deofficialization ►
2. Legendary clans updates ►
Thank you all for reading, if you have any questions or objections feel free to point them out in this thread, cheers.
Last edited by duck; Jul 22, 2018 at 07:20 PM.
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To set a standard of activity for clans that won't be met with the usual "hey why is x clan still alive" after every check we do. We aim to remove official status from clans that are actually inactive.
Not only that, but for future official clans, for future members who weren't around for the previous checks, this will be nothing more than a criteria that's needed to be met, so it will help boost activity from future official clans.
Your clan should be active to be be able to use the perks it has been given. This is basically the main point of activity checks beyond the activity standard. Are you trying to argue we don't have activity checks at all? Because I honestly have no interest in arguing such a point in here. If you wish to remove activity checks overall, feel free to make a suggestion thread, although I doubt the success of such endeavor.
Not only that, but for future official clans, for future members who weren't around for the previous checks, this will be nothing more than a criteria that's needed to be met, so it will help boost activity from future official clans.
Your clan should be active to be be able to use the perks it has been given. This is basically the main point of activity checks beyond the activity standard. Are you trying to argue we don't have activity checks at all? Because I honestly have no interest in arguing such a point in here. If you wish to remove activity checks overall, feel free to make a suggestion thread, although I doubt the success of such endeavor.
Originally Posted by duck
To set a standard of activity for clans that won't be met with the usual "hey why is x clan still alive" after every check we do. We aim to remove official status from clans that are actually inactive.
Honestly if the process of a clan becoming official wasn't so lenient the past couple of years this would not be a problem today, it sounds like you are targeting clans because there is to many. (which there is)
There's to many clans as it is and it's as easy as 1,2,3 to become official.
If there was more meaningful vote/process like back in the day I bet the results of what you/we want/looking for would be a lot greater then they are now.
Clans use to be an achievement, a goal, it use to mean something to be invited to a clan but now its just another way to tantalize the system/staff, as a joke, cause issues, not take seriously, and cause little minor issues which I would not imagine anyone would want to deal with.
I have seen it work for myself but regarding the fluctuation from 3.0+ it now requires outside amendments such as what people have already suggested,- (Clan Events & Clan involvement).
There are other methods available to you all and I would hope you would notice it..
Work with the community, don't work against them.
Last edited by Tripstone; Jul 21, 2018 at 02:09 PM.
200 posts a month just for 5 extra points isn't the best boost, just make it 50/50 so the old system of posting is still viable but you can also pass the check for ingame active and keep the whole you get de-officialised. seeming a clan is a community with in this community even if that means posting on the forums or playing ingame. and being official helps with part of that community with the board and/or the private board for use to use.
Last edited by Lamby; Jul 21, 2018 at 11:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by duck
We wanted to change that because those checks really should be there to ensure that the official clans we have, the ones that set a standard for others to come, are actually up to a standard.
We debated on the criteria and came up with what we see as still passable, yet more strict than what we had before.
It wasnt that the old checks were too lenient though. The formula for the old checks was in-fact, adjusted while I was back in clan staff to do just what you said, make official clans set a 'standard'. The problem isn't the leniency of the checks, it's that CLAN MODS and CLAN ADMINS were lazy as fuck and rarely ran the updated checks.
Go back and check through the clan staff board and check my latest created thread in it (back when Faint was admin). It's me complaining about how there hadn't been a check in ages and for admin/mods to pull their socks up. Faint disagreed vehemently and I was kicked from Clan Staff for that (after we exchanged 'fuck offs') and given a usernote that says never to hire me again. This is a relevant lil' anecdote because...
The issue is not the efficacy of the former tests in not setting a proper 'standard', the issue is that lazy clan staff didn't bother running them. It's really not a chore - 40 minutes work (if that) for the before and after check, run twice yearly. This is not a lot of work, especially considering that clan staff do pretty much nothing all the time - It is, by far, the smallest workload out of all staff (unless you're a lazy smod).
The former man-run checks kept the standard - We adjusted them over the years to make sure they weren't too lenient. The only hiccup was high clan staff eventually got lazy and complacent and didn't run the checks.
Rather than invent a tool that just allows clan staff to be even more lazy (do even less work), simply run the previous checks according to the schedule they were designed to be run on. Boom. You now have a legit standard for officialness (and you don't have the entire community rallying against you).
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It surprises me that there's been this much backlash and this is still happening.
Last edited by Ele; Jul 22, 2018 at 03:02 AM.
