Originally Posted by
Micah
1. What I'm saying is he played the matches, period all the evidence needed is right there. Whether they count or not comes second to that fact, if it were not so, CL would be over.
2. No that's not what i meant at all. If someone were to cheat, play through to the finals, and staff finds out they cheated after CL has concluded, the clan should either be DQ'ed or made to play again with a handicap. The example was for explanatory purposes.
3. If you ask a bad cop if you can shoot someone and he says yes, you shoot the someone and get arrested by a better cop, is it your fault for shooting the guy? or the bad cops fault for telling you it was okay even though you figured it wouldn't be in the first place, else you wouldn't have had to ask.
4. No basis of fact? Did you not know he had played matches for a different clan?
5. I'd recommend you pull your head out of your ass with that holier-than-thou bullshit
I do agree that staff's negligence is the main cause of the issue, no one is debating that point. But to think it is staffs fault entirely?(the only reason im even discussing this, besides wanting to argue because i enjoy it). -snip- that one was a little too mean uwu
Alright this is the last time I'm responding to your posts seriously, you've missed the point twice now and at this point I can only really appreciate your desire to argue. I'll respond to the next post with the meme I deem appropriate for the situation.
In regards to your first point you can literally just refer back to my first response as it doesn't appear you even read it. You just repeated what I initially responded to and elaborated that "it's all the evidence you need".
Second point, sure if you were just trying to explain something fine. You just portrayed it as though the scenario you painted would actually occur, and I was explaining that it never would.
Third point, again I'm not sure why you're comparing someone being shot, or someone robbing innocent people to staff members giving us permission to do something. Of course the only parallel I could perhaps draw from this is you comparing Tinerr, and neko to "bad cops", but you know, not exactly the greatest comparison for your example.
Fourth point, your argument having "no basis in fact" refers to the fact that you are assuming we "took a risk" by adding Felnin to the roster. The factor of it being a "risk" was negated by the fact that staff members informed us it was acceptable to add him to the roster. Staff members being
the ones who wrote the rules and run the event of course.
And so there is no longer a risk, because we were inexplicably told by staff members,
the ones who wrote the rules and run the event that we were not breaking the rules. Again, why would we just ignore their ruling? Perhaps we outta just ignore the rules altogether.
And in regards to your last point, the reason for me saying that is because we have loads of people posting on this thread who haven't a clue what they are talking about (including yourself) cluttering the thread with gibberish. I can only assume it's going to make it more time consuming for staff to read everything here and find the sense in this maelstrom of nonsense.
So yeah I wasn't trying to sound "holier-than-thou" it was quite literally just don't post all this crap it's gonna make it hard to read later.
You say that no one is debating that staff negligence is the main cause of the issue, yet in your last post you literally debated it by saying it was an even 50/50 part to blame to staff and Obey. Which of course you now seem to think is not the case, so that's cool I'm glad we're getting somewhere.
But anyways in regards to what Diamond was saying before, I mentioned previously that this decision is going to be a game-changer to many clans and that includes Alpha. Fellas are starting to realize that if this decision is made, Alpha may have to play the entirety of finals again. Just another month of wasted time basically.
Regardless, I think staff are close to sorting out a decision so I'm afraid I may not be able to follow up with my promise of memes.
Unless of course we are indeed being compared to people who listen to bad cops and shoot and murder people, and rob the innocent. In which case you might want to get the police involved as I was unaware of a mass crime ring being cultivated within Obey.