Originally Posted by T0ribush
Marriage shouldn't be a right, it sounds more like a privilege.
Also fools that want to get married, thinking the world is going to change with your prenups and documented love, hahaha.
If you aren't religious I seriously think you shouldn't even be thinking of getting married.
Can someone explain why Marriage is THE thing, that HAS to happen?
w-what?
Are you serious?
Religion and Marriage no longer have anything to do with each other. I'm not going to explain to you why people have been getting married for thousands of years.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
To reiterate, what she did was not illegal, people spreading that misconception (to put it mildly) are pushing some agenda.
The infamous gayfriendly-illuminato agenda
ahhh pig :3
(Sorry Rai I made a joke, gief infraction)
Last edited by deprav; Sep 18, 2015 at 06:27 PM.
Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Yes they are.
People have always had equal marriage rights regardless of sexuality, saying otherwise is ignorance or wilful perversion of the truth.
Ok Im going to argue only with this point (its not the only bit I strongly disagree with but its uhhh one of the worst)
how can you think that same sex couples have always had the same marriage rights as other couples. Same sex marriage was only relatively recently legalised in the UK (and US as well I think)
and if you say "oh they can always go abroad to get married" then its still not the same marriage rights, are you seriously saying that being forced to leave the country in order to have a marriage is having the same marriage rights as being able to be married pretty much wherever you want? (Hawkinsnightmare's point on this was also valid)
Just on an off note, I can see the argument against same sex marriage; marriage is a christian ceremony, the point of which is to have children from the married couple, of course same sex couples cannot do this and therefore the nature of marriage is different to what was intended when marriage was conceptualized.
I also dont think adoption is included in this as I think the point is that the child is conceived by the married couple.
^^^this is all only if I have correctly understood what Im on about^^^
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What rights were they lacking then?
the right to get married freely?...
No one seems to be able to tell me that lol. "Marriage equality" with regard to sexuality has always existed.
We’re now at 10% of the world’s population, up from zero little more than a decade ago.
so what youre incinuating is that although ~90% of gay couples cant get married without travelling across the world, they have the same marriage rights as straight couples all of whom can get married wherever they what whenever they want?
We know it is a fact that 50 years ago there was nowhere in the world gay couples could get married, we also know you think gay couples have always had equal marriage rights. Are yousaying that not being able to marry at all and being able to marry is having the same marriage rights?
In other words do you think having marriage rights and not having them is the same thing?
Tbh I've never even heard of anyone being asked their sexuality at the registrar. Tell me how many people were denied based on their sexuality, heck, if you can find even one I'd be impressed.
how about the case that this thread is about ._.
the reason they dont get asked is because usually you can tell, I mean its abit of a giveaway if both of the people wanting to get married are men
and how about all the people who wanted ti get married in the 20th century, they all got denied
People have always had equal marriage rights regardless of sexuality, saying otherwise is ignorance or wilful perversion of the truth
"We’re now at 10% of the world’s population, up from zero little more than a decade ago"
how does that not alert you to unequal rights
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Originally Posted by Zelda
you have been too busy feeling sorry for gay people to notice the gaps in logic pig has made in quite a few of his arguments.
I think this is the problem with discussion forums. When you argue for logics/arguments sake you make simply retarded statements that have nothing to do with the real world (read every immortal pigs post). Sure in some idea world where only theory is applied, some of the arguments pig has used might work or be realistic. But in the real world, everything he has said thus far has been utterly wrong. I don't know if pig is playing the devils advocate or if he's just dumb, I can't tell but all the arguments he has made have either been based on semantics or some abstract philosophical ideas (and usually filled with logical fallacies)
To me this kind of discussion is banal, sure it gives more to talk about, but the quality of the discussion is simply worse. Especially when the other person is grounded in reality and the other isnt.
EDIT: Some homophobes paranoid rants are not exactly top notch discussion material to begin with.
Last edited by cowmeat; Sep 20, 2015 at 02:56 PM.
