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Please tell me how my concerns are stupid. I'm begging you.

NK isn't relevant to this discussion. We're not talking about NK terrorists or deporting Koreans.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 9, 2015 at 08:27 AM.
It was an example regarding screwing people. You don't like their government so you condemn their civilians to starvation. We don't like Muslim extremists, but we are trying to cherry-pick the bad guys for some reason which obviously isn't working.

If I were an Arab living in Europe, and I'd have to leave because of my people's predominant religion's extremists, I'd be more pissed at said extremists than my hosts.

You know, just because you don't like my answer doesn't make it stupid or insufficient. I addressed all your concerns by saying that they are of negligible importance. I took the time to answer your post in detail, so I find it quite disrespectful that you dismiss me and my opinion this way. I don't think this behaviour has a place in this subforum.
Kthx.
Last edited by ynvaser; Jan 9, 2015 at 08:41 AM.
Originally Posted by ynvaser View Post
You know, just because you don't like my answer doesn't make it stupid or insufficient. I addressed all your concerns by saying that they are of negligible importance. I took the time to answer your post in detail, so I find it quite disrespectful that you dismiss me and my opinion this way. I don't think this behaviour has a place in this subforum.

You did not explain how persecuting all arabs, resulting in increased tension, more radicals and hostile relations with the East is not important.

Your solution does all those things (which you admit, seeing as you're just saying they're not important). Your solution is clearly a bad idea.

I'm not being disrespectful. You didn't address my points 'in detail' at all.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Your solution does all those things (which you admit, seeing as you're just saying they're not important). Your solution is clearly a bad idea.

I'm clearly saying it's a non-issue. How the fuck do you come to these conclusions? Why is radicalizing these people a bad thing when they can't reach us anymore? They can be radical elsewhere, I clearly wouldn't mind as long as Europeans aren't dying because of it.

If I were an Arab living in Europe, and I'd have to leave because of my people's predominant religion's extremists, I'd be more pissed at said extremists than my hosts.

I also added this to my previous post as an afterthought. Sorry for the edits all over the place.
Last edited by ynvaser; Jan 9, 2015 at 08:45 AM.
Originally Posted by ynvaser View Post
I'm clearly saying it's a non-issue. How the fuck do you come to these conclusions?

I'm clearly saying, "WHY IS INCREASED TENSIONS, MORE RADICALS BEING CREATED AND WORSENED RELATIONS WITH THE EAST NOT IMPORTANT?".

Am I clear enough now?

Originally Posted by ynvaser View Post
Why is radicalizing these people a bad thing when they can't reach us anymore?

So people who want to enter a country have no way of doing so without the host country's permission? Ah, of course.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 9, 2015 at 08:49 AM.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
So people who want to enter a country have no way of doing so without the host country's permission? Ah, of course.

I don't know if you've ever been to Europe, but it's quite easy to tell if someone is European or, you know, an Arab. If, say, we sent them all home, and by miracle we still found one shopping for suicide vests at the hardware store or something, that would be quite easy to spot before something potentially bad could happen.

I think we are derailing this topic too much now. Let's agree to disagree.
Originally Posted by ynvaser View Post
I don't know if you've ever been to Europe, but it's quite easy to tell if someone is European or, you know, an Arab. If, say, we sent them all home, and by miracle we still found one shopping for suicide vests at the hardware store or something, that would be quite easy to spot before something potentially bad could happen.

Because all terrorists buy their suicide vests are hardware stores? OK. Clearly you've thought this through. Your argument is 'if a miracle happens, it's easy to spot'. Not a good argument.

Aside from that, you still haven't countered my two other points. Why is raising tensions (both ethnic and diplomatic) and make more enemies not important?

We're not derailing this thread. I'm grilling you to defend your stupid solution and you keep skirting around it. If you know it's stupid, admit it is, and then we can move on.
Last edited by Ele; Jan 9, 2015 at 09:01 AM.
ynvaser: Here are some questions for you.
What do you propose we do with Muslims that are born in your country?
What do you do with Muslims whose country of origin won't take them back?
How are you going to get rid of Muslims, who is going to pay for it? If the Muslims themselves must pay for it, what do you do with the poor ones?
How would you organize that deportation on such a scale?
What would you do with Muslims who do not have an Eastern background but actually are your ethnicity? Surely you know that not all Muslims are “arabs”? Even some of the fanatic ones.
What are you going to do with Muslims who do not openly state they are Muslims? How will you find them? Has it crossed your mind that as soon as you start deporting Muslims many will try to hide their faith?
What are you going to do with Muslims who just leave their Mosques and claim they are no longer Muslims, even if many of them still secretly are? Many of which may even be those extremists you want to get rid of. Has it occurred to you that an extremist in particular would use tactics to stay in a country to damage it in the future?
What are you going to do with the increased rates of extremists? When one side starts hating another and starts acting on that hatred, the other side will react with hatred as well. What I am saying is that as soon as you start deporting Muslims to get rid of extremists you will have even more extremists on your hands unless you can figure out a method to stop that from happening. What are your ideas?

pro tip: Look up how the Holocaust or the hunt of communists in America were organized, you may find many answers to those problems there.
Last edited by Redundant; Jan 9, 2015 at 12:31 PM.
So.. the suspects of the attack have been killed and the hostage they were holding freed. Do you guys reckon these two are the actual two who attacked the Charlie Hebdo offices?
[19:59] <Lazors> man it's a good thing people don't see what i write here
And you are happy because terrorists are killed...

How can you be happy because people being killed ?

Yes, they killed innocent people, and so what ?

A mother who cry is a mother who cry, nothing else. If these guys arrive at the point to kill innocent in their own country that is probably because they were suffering too.

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