Toribash
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My Wishlist for Hampa ...
since there is so many Santa imposters out there theese days, i dont trust that guy no more :3

1. a new damage/points-system! because the momentary one just doesnt feel right for a fighting game. i dont understand the underlaying code structures but i think a short damage timeout after a clean hit could fix this ridiculous high points gained by just rubbing hands and feet on your oponent
2. -.- ...a dojo for wushu ....its a fighting game not freeroaming GTAWhiteout. nuff said
3. a new toribash! dont get me wrong, i still think that toribash is one of the best game concepts that are out there and i tryed quiet a few in my gamingcareere wich is now more than 20years ^^
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
i feel like that is time for changes and since you are going with this steam/greenlight stuff and all that advertising to atract more players i think it would be a good idea to add some new stuff like it was done with the wii version of tb for example(2 different joint speeds) this realy made a big differnence in movement options.
also, while we start tb from scrach, we could add things like:
4. cloths (could be a new tc source for nabi =P).
5.more realistic weapons/weapon-mods. maybe achievable or buyable ones or choosable before match starts (stuff like swords,staffs, baseballbat,leadpipe^^ twinsabres, nunchuks and if the coders feel fancy enough i could imagine even guns)
6. instead of 1000 different mods there could be stages like in good old beatemups(maybe with deathtraps and such for stuff similar to finishingmoves in MK or even breakable enviroment)
7. instead of pointsdisplay an energybar would ad to the thrill of a battle and sometimes shorten matches a bit. also the bar could be related to qi/ki achived or even the belt, like say the higher the belt the more energy.....yaya i know that this would seem unfair in public rooms but then again higher belts could have their intense matches amongst themselfes while lower belts would learn faster ^^
8. combos wich decrease the new energybar slightly higher with every (clean) hit within a given period of frames, like maybe add 10% per next hit to the damage calculation or something like that(some fancy onscreen bling bling particles related to the combo so it gets harder to go on because the attackers sight on his tori decreases with every next combohit)
9. an openingsequence for battles that are edited by each player himselfe like all other fighting games have for each character(50-100 frames)
10. along with the sequence an openingstance (some dude wrote it somewhere else) could be limited by mod/room management if it comest to official/public matches with close engage distance no need for the ones with more distance, for its opener-alike and opener dont guarantee a win. or the sequence and the stance could be combined like do sequence for walk in (or whatever) and speed at the end needs to be 0 and this makes for the stance
11. customisable toris. for example shorter = quicker,higher = stronger with more mass but slower , fater = more endurance, thinner = less weight (higher jumping)
could be related to account or adjusted by sliders.
12. also, i support snakes with the grab-stuff realy never liked the glueish hands mods id prefere the grabbing as grabbing in reallife but as it is with the pointssystem grabbing someone ends one up with less points than the grabbed one or maybe only inside of the hands could grab could be a short therm solution.

........ well i could go on and on and on with what would/could be possible with a new tb. but im hungry now =P
anyhow on my part i would gladly give up my items, qi, tc (lol wich i dont have) to start from scrach again with a newer tb wich feels more arcade-like . how about you guys ?




ooooooooooooooooooooh totaly forgot, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE get that /enterfee command to work properly, so we can fund irregular tourneys and such
Last edited by Pliskien; Dec 23, 2013 at 05:46 PM. Reason: forgot the most important thingy
@ ikausania
1.why?
2.wellp, tryed ctrl+g in public rooms ... wont work -.- ok in adition to that id like to see a tc penalty for more than 2 hands and or feet on ground for more than 5 frames
3. ever tryed tb on wii??
4. so u tell me some waving flags in other sizes and easy shapes, but instead of at the head at another location on tori, eat up more memory now, explain it to me please
5. would have done it allready if i wasnt so busy with life and playing tb =P also realistic as in no instaplode on touch...except for the guns ofc
6. well can be done in modmaking too but ...see 5.......
7 seemingly energy/health bar is a german to english issue ;) why not, i like it ?
8. see 7.
9. yea
10. so what? /opt stance 0 for official rooms or even two rankingsystems ^^
11.never happend to me ... dunno i play games for fun of playing them....anyhow id like to customize stuff like that
12 i am wushuer, i dont care =P
Originally Posted by Pliskien View Post
since there is so many Santa imposters out there theese days, i dont trust that guy no more :3

1. a new damage/points-system! because the momentary one just doesnt feel right for a fighting game. i dont understand the underlaying code structures but i think a short damage timeout after a clean hit could fix this ridiculous high points gained by just rubbing hands and feet on your oponent
2. -.- ...a dojo for wushu ....its a fighting game not freeroaming GTAWhiteout. nuff said
3. a new toribash! dont get me wrong, i still think that toribash is one of the best game concepts that are out there and i tryed quiet a few in my gamingcareere wich is now more than 20years ^^
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
i feel like that is time for changes and since you are going with this steam/greenlight stuff and all that advertising to atract more players i think it would be a good idea to add some new stuff like it was done with the wii version of tb for example(2 different joint speeds) this realy made a big differnence in movement options.
also, while we start tb from scrach, we could add things like:
4. cloths (could be a new tc source for nabi =P).
5.more realistic weapons/weapon-mods. maybe achievable or buyable ones or choosable before match starts (stuff like swords,staffs, baseballbat,leadpipe^^ twinsabres, nunchuks and if the coders feel fancy enough i could imagine even guns)
6. instead of 1000 different mods there could be stages like in good old beatemups(maybe with deathtraps and such for stuff similar to finishingmoves in MK or even breakable enviroment)
7. instead of pointsdisplay an energybar would ad to the thrill of a battle and sometimes shorten matches a bit. also the bar could be related to qi/ki achived or even the belt, like say the higher the belt the more energy.....yaya i know that this would seem unfair in public rooms but then again higher belts could have their intense matches amongst themselfes while lower belts would learn faster ^^
8. combos wich decrease the new energybar slightly higher with every (clean) hit within a given period of frames, like maybe add 10% per next hit to the damage calculation or something like that(some fancy onscreen bling bling particles related to the combo so it gets harder to go on because the attackers sight on his tori decreases with every next combohit)
9. an openingsequence for battles that are edited by each player himselfe like all other fighting games have for each character(50-100 frames)
10. along with the sequence an openingstance (some dude wrote it somewhere else) could be limited by mod/room management if it comest to official/public matches with close engage distance no need for the ones with more distance, for its opener-alike and opener dont guarantee a win. or the sequence and the stance could be combined like do sequence for walk in (or whatever) and speed at the end needs to be 0 and this makes for the stance
11. customisable toris. for example shorter = quicker,higher = stronger with more mass but slower , fater = more endurance, thinner = less weight (higher jumping)
could be related to account or adjusted by sliders.
12. also, i support snakes with the grab-stuff realy never liked the glueish hands mods id prefere the grabbing as grabbing in reallife but as it is with the pointssystem grabbing someone ends one up with less points than the grabbed one or maybe only inside of the hands could grab could be a short therm solution.

........ well i could go on and on and on with what would/could be possible with a new tb. but im hungry now =P
anyhow on my part i would gladly give up my items, qi, tc (lol wich i dont have) to start from scrach again with a newer tb wich feels more arcade-like . how about you guys ?




ooooooooooooooooooooh totaly forgot, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE get that /enterfee command to work properly, so we can fund irregular tourneys and such



1 - The point system isnt all that bad. Fast strong kick = more points. I do notice it needs some roughing out.
2 - Thats a mod you/ someone else can make. Easily. And one good thing about wushu is freedom.
3 - If you want a new toribash, then make a new game. The toribash right now is perfectly fine. Dont fix whats not broken.
4 - clothes seem nice but restricting. Would kinda render body textures useless. Seems like another thing for me to /opt.
5 - Would reallyyyyy change the game. Maybe a gamemode where you can do that, but if you could use weapons every fight, it wouldnt be toribash.
6 - Not that sure what you mean there...
7 - One drawback of your plan... I can do a sleepout. Just let the "newbie" use all of his "energy" and i can just run around in circles.
8 - Combos might be nice, but it sounds like you are trying to make a new game.
9 - Not sure what you mean again :c
10 - That might be nice and harmful. Ex: In aikido you can set up your "opener sequence as a shovel move and shovel even faster.
11 - nope nope nope nope. One good thing about toribash is its completely fair and even on both sides (same goes with number "7 -", above). Theres no one set up beats another set up.
12 - Only the palm being able to grab seems nice. I do like the regular grab system as of now though.

Long story short: I like toribash how it is now, and you sound like you want a new game in general.

Note: Most of my statements are based off opinions.
well folks, its a suggestion thread.
i am just trying to get my opinion across.... as i said, im a hardcore gamer and would strongly apreciate some changes wich would turn toribash a bit more dynamic and atractive fore the more casual gamer ( if i might call em so), in no way id like to see toribash unbalanced or something like that. and it would be a masterpiece if what i suggested would be turned true with a balance that kept us serious tb players migrating to a new tb. geez infact im a bit frighten by your fear to advance to something new that by your help and ideas could be managed to be something as great as this game but with a new look. i never said id like weapons everytime or similar.... but a realy realy realy realy great game beeing altered to the level im able to imagining .. could turn out awsome , dont u agree??
@SparChar
1. nope, its fine when the piecesguy is skilled enough
2. still cant in public, and noobish runners are anoying
3.agreed, but why not alter it since its 2013?
4. /opt cloth(hair) 0 ....fixed... still cool for vids and replays
5. am allready, but to play with weapons the easy way when you feel like for the day would be cool too, wouldnt it !?
6.there is an /atmo tool as well but interaction with something ingame is cool for 2013 as well, isnt it?
7. like my stuff in 3D .... 2013 ..... ^
8. not realy , ...no ....
9. i do that even without movesaver, but again intro=more dynamic for the game at whole=atractive to new guys=more stuff to come
10. see above
11. see 7.
12. realism isnt realy your thing, isnt it

@eRekd. neither me would like to see it. in fact id give up on hd shader stuff and all that needless things to have a great physics game playable with guys from all over the world, in a competitive, even more dynamic manner. hell id play on 480x640 if it was fluid
Last edited by Pliskien; Dec 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM.
the pointsystem was my main reason for this thread because its realy odd to get 85k points from tapping ukes head . but im allways open for new stuff and hey , why not alter the game, since it has a pretty good base ... also been fooling arround with the modmaker lately, after that physics in tb seem even stranger than before....

btw nice comebackskillz, SparChar :3
Originally Posted by Pliskien View Post
since there is so many Santa imposters out there theese days, i dont trust that guy no more :3

1. a new damage/points-system! because the momentary one just doesnt feel right for a fighting game. i dont understand the underlaying code structures but i think a short damage timeout after a clean hit could fix this ridiculous high points gained by just rubbing hands and feet on your oponent

actually good idea, we've been asking for this all for quite awhile.

3. a new toribash!

new separated client to add more features without being bound to borkked engine and low-end pc requirements. tried to suggest it for e-sport edition.

6. instead of 1000 different mods there could be stages like in good old beatemups(maybe with deathtraps and such for stuff similar to finishingmoves in MK or even breakable enviroment)

actually good idea, and may bring alot of fun without sacrificing much skill.

7. instead of pointsdisplay an energybar would ad to the thrill of a battle and sometimes shorten matches a bit. also the bar could be related to qi/ki achived or even the belt, like say the higher the belt the more energy.....yaya i know that this would seem unfair in public rooms but then again higher belts could have their intense matches amongst themselfes while lower belts would learn faster ^^

knock out, good idea, was suggested also.

8. combos wich decrease the new energybar slightly higher with every (clean) hit within a given period of frames, like maybe add 10% per next hit to the damage calculation or something like that(some fancy onscreen bling bling particles related to the combo so it gets harder to go on because the attackers sight on his tori decreases with every next combohit)

it's a bit too drastic imo, but talking a bout energy bar...

energy bar instead of turn frame limiter will be a great idea, but as we all know the game is abandoned by developers so, whats the point to discuss game changing features if we can't get the simpleist bug fixes for ages.

can explain the idea further but as i stated before it's mostly pointless in current situation


9. an openingsequence for battles that are edited by each player himselfe like all other fighting games have for each character(50-100 frames)
10. along with the sequence an openingstance (some dude wrote it somewhere else) could be limited by mod/room management if it comest to official/public matches with close engage distance no need for the ones with more distance, for its opener-alike and opener dont guarantee a win. or the sequence and the stance could be combined like do sequence for walk in (or whatever) and speed at the end needs to be 0 and this makes for the stance

with an option to skip it - sounds like a neat bit

11. customisable toris. for example shorter = quicker,higher = stronger with more mass but slower , fater = more endurance, thinner = less weight (higher jumping)
could be related to account or adjusted by sliders.

err... good idea to make the game more "traditional" and may bring quite alot fresh blood, but it's against the core concept of tb.
in other words, will be great but as separated version of tb


12. also, i support snakes with the grab-stuff realy never liked the glueish hands mods id prefere the grabbing as grabbing in reallife but as it is with the pointssystem grabbing someone ends one up with less points than the grabbed one or maybe only inside of the hands could grab could be a short therm solution.

breakable ball axis grab should have been implemented ages ago if not from beginning of developenent, may clarify what and what in depth if anybody interested.

overall a new fresh tb will be a good idea. but again, you need developers who will actually do shit, since no matter how much we will dream, nothing will change here anyway.
Health bar would be awesome, that actually completely solves the problem with running in some striking mods - matchframes would be unlimited - you fight to the death/dq - this has my full support!

The idea of beat 'em up single player is very interesting - if done right it can be great.

Snake : So what would be the criteria to break the grab?
Last edited by chlebicek; Dec 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM.
Exactly, it seems that this would be a rather simple feature to implement since it can be based on the current point system. It could just be that the first player to reach a certain number of points(50k for example) gets the win. Although an actual bar would look cooler.